<DIV> Jim you probably have a pretty good idea of this since your so interested so here goes. How much would it cost for the power plant in an E 2 meter pattern plane? I've seen a number of figures thrown out there. Also is the equipment reliable enough to make it a choice yet? Thanks, Mike<BR><BR><B><I>JOddino <JOddino@socal.rr.com></I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Thanks for the feedback. All the reports are positive on the Eclipse.<BR>Sounds like it is in the same class as the Partner. The slower speed<BR>appeals to me primarily because one could fly closer where I can see better.<BR>It will be interesting to see what else hits the market in the next few<BR>months. I have talked to Tony and Troy and they are very happy with the<BR>electric and if the Matt's etc., are going that way you can bet there will<BR>be a lot of new "designed for electric" planes coming.<BR>Batteries are still a worry. They could turn out to be very expensive fuel<BR>if they don't last a season.<BR>Regards, Jim<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Steve Kessler" <KESSLER@KINGWOODCABLE.NET><BR>To: <DISCUSSION@NSRCA.ORG><BR>Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 4:41 AM<BR>Subject: Re: Eclipse conversion to electric<BR><BR><BR>> Jim,<BR>><BR>> Ron Barr, a member
FAI pilot flew my electric Eclipse. He too was<BR>> impressed on how slow and true the plane flies. Except for timing issues,<BR>> this plane flies every bit as good as my Smaragd-z. Ron now flies the<BR>> Partner and felt he could be competitive with the Eclipses. I also have a<BR>> glow Eclipse. Right now they still exhibit almost the same performance.<BR>> The glow Eclipse flies much faster and doesn't slow down in the down lines<BR>> as much. I tend to fly the Masters Pattern at warp speed, so I am more<BR>> used to the glow performance. What impresses me the most on the electric<BR>> Eclipse is that I seem to have time to think what is the next maneuver and<BR>> actually set up for it. Over time I hope to convert my flying style to<BR>> more slow and steady. In RC Universe there is a thread in the pattern<BR>> flying forum titled Electrified Partner. Troy Neuman flew TonyF's<BR>> Partner. He articulated the different flying characteristics
very well.<BR>><BR>> Regards,<BR>><BR>> Steve<BR>><BR>> > From what I saw it should be as good as anything from Europe.<BR>> ><BR>> > Don<BR>> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > From: JOddino<BR>> > To: discussion@nsrca.org<BR>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 3:56 PM<BR>> > Subject: Re: Eclipse conversion to electric<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > The Eclipse looks like it might be an ideal airplane to build as an<BR>> > electric. I was wondering how well it flies compared to the other top<BR>> > pattern planes of the day? As good as the stuff coming from Europe?<BR>> > Starting to think about my next project. Any suggestions would be<BR>> > appreciated.<BR>> > Jim<BR>> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > From: Steve & Cindy Kessler<BR>> > To: discussion@nsrca.org<BR>> > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 6:41 AM<BR>> > Subject: Eclipse conversion to
electric<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > I have converted one of my Eclipses to electric. There is a full<BR>> > report in RC universe in the pattern section under Eclipse conversion<BR>> > to electric<BR>> ><BR>http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/Eclipse_conversion_to_electric/m_1936912/tm.htm<BR>> ><BR>> > I have been able to get another five flights on the electric<BR>Eclipse.<BR>> > This time I had the Hacker C50 14XL 6.7:1 motor and the APC E22-12<BR>> > prop. I am impressed on how well it flies even in a moderate wind<BR>> > (some 15 mph). It has plenty of vertical for the Masters pattern.<BR>> ><BR>> > I did experience a battery failure. The air temperature was 93F. The<BR>> > maximum motor temperature I measured was 132F after landing. The<BR>> > batteries never got hot. The first picture shows that cells second<BR>> > from the end failed. I discussed the situation with Thunder power.<BR>>
> They are replacing the TP6000 5s3p packs under warranty. They have had<BR>> > some failures in these packs. Mostly with the packs installed in<BR>> > pattern planes. Apparently the cells are not getting enough cooling. I<BR>> > have since revised support plates with plenty of cooling holes. I<BR>> > have also ducted all of my air across the motor and directly to the<BR>> > batteries. I hope to get some more test flights next weekend. I still<BR>> > hope to bring the plane to the Nats. Just need some more practice.<BR>> ><BR>> > The original conversion weighed in at 11#-6oz. That means I gained<BR>> > exactly one pound, one ounce in the conversion. I now have the plane<BR>> > below 11# by 1 to 2 oz. Here is what I had to do:<BR>> ><BR>> > First I removed the wheel pants and Dave Brown 3" light tires. I<BR>also<BR>> > carved all excess material from the Bolly CF landing gear. I will be<BR>> >
using the central hobbies aluminum axels and MK 55mm tires. This saved<BR>> > some 5oz.<BR>> ><BR>> > Second I removed the 1600ma NiMH receiver battery and installed a<BR>> > 770ma NiMH battery. This saved 2.1 oz.<BR>> ><BR>> > Third I removed all excess material from the fuselage. You don't<BR>need<BR>> > wide flanges on an electric motor. There is almost no vibration in the<BR>> > air frame.<BR>> ><BR>> > There is some two more ounces of weight savings I could do such as<BR>> > using the new JR770 pcm-s credit card mini receiver and using the mid<BR>> > size aileron servos. This is more expensive and is not necessary.<BR>> ><BR>> > All in all, a glow conversion to electric can come in under 11#. It<BR>> > is best to start with a plane weighing in at no more than 10#-4oz.<BR>> ><BR>> > I would not hesitate to conseder converting a glow pattern plane to<BR>> >
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