<DIV>What if its not?<BR><BR><B><I>Don Ramsey <donramsey@cox-internet.com></I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">The landing sequence also requires that the 180 degree turn to downwind be<BR>in the aerobatic zone.<BR><BR>Don<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "John Ferrell" <JOHNFERRELL@EARTHLINK.NET><BR>To: <DISCUSSION@NSRCA.ORG><BR>Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 4:57 PM<BR>Subject: Re: Earl's excellent observations<BR><BR><BR>> I can post your drawings in my personal web space, just send me a copy.<BR>><BR>> Bill Glaze pointed out to me that the FAI landing sequence requires that<BR>> once you begin your descent to landing, you can never gain any altitude<BR>> according to the book. There would have been a lot of unhappy finalists if<BR>> this was enforced at Muncie. The only available penalty is a zero...<BR>><BR>> John Ferrell<BR>> http://DixieNC.US<BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Dean Pappas" <D.PAPPAS@KODEOS.COM><BR>> To:
<DISCUSSION@NSRCA.ORG><BR>> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 1:25 PM<BR>> Subject: Earl's excellent observations<BR>><BR>><BR>> Hello All,<BR>> wifferdil ... I just call 'em twinkle-rolls!<BR>> What I would like to see is for our team members to have two new arrows in<BR>> their quiver at the next Worlds.<BR>> One is a real snap that comes out on heading or is quickly corrected.<BR>(hint:<BR>> the more deeply the airplane is stalled in the initial break, the less<BR>lift<BR>> is available for heading loss.) That's right, a half loaf is worse than<BR>none<BR>> at all.<BR>> The other is a rolling circle that will not violate either the judges'<BR>> eyesight or a reasonable interpretation of the rule book as to distance.<BR>The<BR>> book does not specifically treat this maneuver class differently, so the<BR>150<BR>> good/175 downgrade/200 severe downgrade rule obviously still applies. At<BR>> least it will when the Worlds' judges
arbitrarily decide to start<BR>enforcing<BR>> it! Meanwhile, it's still in the book.<BR>> My concern is that without at least these two weapons in their arsenal,<BR>the<BR>> team will be set up to be "caught-out" as in '87. What do I mean? In '85<BR>> everyone at the Worlds flew at 200 ~250m. At the European Championship in<BR>> '86 the same was true, and Frack, Koger and I think Ivan were there as<BR>guest<BR>> participants. Sometime between then and Avignon in '87, a group of judges<BR>> agreed that the book was not being upheld, and started doing so. As a<BR>> result, we were caught-out, without even the right prop in the flight-box<BR>to<BR>> fly at the necessary speeds. Unfair? No! It was finally done by the book.<BR>> We risk the same issue with snaps and rolling circles. Everyone has been<BR>> getting away with murder on the snaps, at recent Worlds, and one day the<BR>> hammer is bound to drop. Besides, common sense says that the rollers
are<BR>too<BR>> stinkin' big.<BR>> Other observations: I saw one square that was square in 4 rounds of the<BR>best<BR>> 8 fliers in the land. Most ranged from 20% to 50% wide, especially in the<BR>> vertical 8s. Oh yes the square square belonged to Quique's 1st known<BR>> compulsory.<BR>> Everybody (and I mean everybody) overlapped the entry and exit lines to<BR>the<BR>> hourglass with 2 of 4 in F05. It's a shame this list doesn't accept<BR>> attachments, as I'd draw up a PDF showing the wrong shape that all the<BR>> finalists "perfected". I'm curious as to what happened here. I don't think<BR>> that it's an issue of education ... Has everyone migrated to a wrong shape<BR>> that the judges (both local and National) are accepting?<BR>> Ducking for cover,<BR>> Dean Pappas<BR>><BR>><BR>> Dean Pappas<BR>> Sr. Design Engineer<BR>> Kodeos Communications<BR>> 111 Corporate Blvd.<BR>> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080<BR>> (908)
222-7817 phone<BR>> (908) 222-2392 fax<BR>> d.pappas@kodeos.com<BR>><BR>> ============# To be removed from this list, go to<BR>> http://www.nsrca.org/discussionA.htm<BR>> and follow the instructions.<BR>><BR>><BR>> =====================================<BR>> # To be removed from this list, go to http://www.nsrca.org/discussionA.htm<BR>> and follow the instructions.<BR>><BR><BR>=====================================<BR># To be removed from this list, go to http://www.nsrca.org/discussionA.htm<BR>and follow the instructions.<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>