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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mike,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am building a 3Dfoamy Extra 300XL and will be
using an AXI2212/34 motor and a APC 11x3.8 prop. Do you have any
recommendations on how much right and down thrust I should use?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=mups1953@yahoo.com href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">mike mueller</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 31, 2004 10:33
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Mike: Foamie Fun</DIV>
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<DIV>Mike, a friend of mine in Oregon designed the plane and he sells the
plans in PDF online at:</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.rcxplanes.com/3D%20Flipper.htm">http://www.rcxplanes.com/3D%20Flipper.htm</A></DIV>
<DIV> Honestly you'll be floored by how crazy and yet stable this on
flys. You can follow the thread at:</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_1463026/anchors_1777492/mpage_9/key_/anchor/tm.htm#1777492">http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_1463026/anchors_1777492/mpage_9/key_/anchor/tm.htm#1777492</A></DIV>
<DIV> Mike<BR><BR><B><I>Mike East <mweast@prodigy.net></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>Where did you get the plans for the Flip 3D? I really like the look and
size of it.<BR><BR><B><I>mike mueller <mups1953@yahoo.com></I></B>
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<DIV> Hey you guys are right about how much fun flat foamies are.
Besides my 2 meter pattern planes these are the most fun to fly. I've
built 5 of them so far and my new Flip 3D foamie is by far thebest. Here's
a pic:</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/upfiles/12052/Om33757.jpg">http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/upfiles/12052/Om33757.jpg</A></DIV>
<DIV> Mike<BR><BR><B><I>Mike East <mweast@prodigy.net></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>Hey Chuck,</DIV>
<DIV>Dang I hate that the Extra didnt work out but I knew for a 100CC
class 3D plane you were headed for about $3500. It'll happen when the
time is right..</DIV>
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<DIV>Im glad to see you have made it into the foamie thing as well. They
are just entirely too much fun. I have the 3dfoamy.com extra and edge.
Im flying the Razor 400 w/ 6.6:1 gearbox and 1320mah Thunder Power
batteries. It has awesome power for pullout but will fly really stable
at low speeds. Im weighing in at just over 14oz. Its given me confidence
to hover and torque roll as low as I dare, that allows me to see what
the thing is doing. So far I can hover forever and if there is no
wind and if I get in a groove I can get a stable torque roll with my
edge for a good while, I cant do that with my U CAN DO not nearly as
stable. The most difficult thing for me is rolling harrier circles. I
can do the 1st 3/4 of the circle but when it rounds the corner and is
coming at me I chicken out. lol. The other day Larry Mercer and I were
flying ours and he said "whats that thing you guys do when you roll with
the nose up?" I said a rolling harrier circle, he said "oh yeah" and
swung out there and did a perfect RHS about 20' in diameter and 20' off
the ground on the 1st try! He is such a good pilot. Pissed me off,
hehehe not really<IMG
src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/03.gif">. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Heres a link to a thread at RCU where I posted some pics of my
plane..</DIV>
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<DIV><A
href="http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/Bought_Batteries%2C_Have_Pics%21_My_Edge%25%25/m_2026052/tm.htm">http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/Bought_Batteries%2C_Have_Pics%21_My_Edge%25%25/m_2026052/tm.htm</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Seeya Later,</DIV>
<DIV>Your Pal,</DIV>
<DIV>Mike<BR><BR><B><I>Chuck Hochhalter
<cshochhalter@sbcglobal.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Mike: I never did
get my extra fully put together… just too much money involved so I
traded it for a Hangar 9 <SPAN class=SpellE>Taylorcraft</SPAN> and
some cash.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">THEN…. I
built a 28 inch wingspan <SPAN class=SpellE>foamie</SPAN> and am
having a blast with it, although I think I could make the wings a bit
wider (span) because on high angle of attack slow flight it rocks A
LOT from side to side. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I
am currently gluing together <SPAN class=GramE>a 60</SPAN> inch IMAC
legal Ultimate blue foam </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: Wingdings"><SPAN
style="mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: Wingdings">J</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> WOOWOO!!
When I finish I will send you <SPAN class=SpellE>pics</SPAN> and maybe
video of all<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Talk to you
again soon.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Chuck
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