<DIV>Steve,</DIV>
<DIV>I also have that same plane. Levi at 3D foamy told me the other day that he has added some instructions in the new kits on how he sets up right thrust. Im not sure in degrees but I shimmed up for about 3/32"-1/8" of right thrust. I didnt setup any downthrust at all and I cant tell a difference. The Axi 2212/34 is a great motor for that plane but you will have to do a little modification to get it mounted. Im pretty sure Levi has a premade adaptor for the rear mount motors but you should be able to build one pretty easily. The Ikarus shock flier advertisement at hobby lobby has a good pictoral on how to build and setup for the axi motor, heres the link.</DIV>
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<DIV><A href="http://www.hobby-lobby.com/shockflyer-brushless.htm">http://www.hobby-lobby.com/shockflyer-brushless.htm</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Mike<BR><BR><B><I>Steve & Cindy Kessler <kessler@kingwoodcable.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am building a 3Dfoamy Extra 300XL and will be using an AXI2212/34 motor and a APC 11x3.8 prop. Do you have any recommendations on how much right and down thrust I should use?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mups1953@yahoo.com href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">mike mueller</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 31, 2004 10:33 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Mike: Foamie Fun</DIV>
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<DIV>Mike, a friend of mine in Oregon designed the plane and he sells the plans in PDF online at:</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://www.rcxplanes.com/3D%20Flipper.htm">http://www.rcxplanes.com/3D%20Flipper.htm</A></DIV>
<DIV> Honestly you'll be floored by how crazy and yet stable this on flys. You can follow the thread at:</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_1463026/anchors_1777492/mpage_9/key_/anchor/tm.htm#1777492">http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_1463026/anchors_1777492/mpage_9/key_/anchor/tm.htm#1777492</A></DIV>
<DIV> Mike<BR><BR><B><I>Mike East <mweast@prodigy.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>Where did you get the plans for the Flip 3D? I really like the look and size of it.<BR><BR><B><I>mike mueller <mups1953@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV> Hey you guys are right about how much fun flat foamies are. Besides my 2 meter pattern planes these are the most fun to fly. I've built 5 of them so far and my new Flip 3D foamie is by far thebest. Here's a pic:</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/upfiles/12052/Om33757.jpg">http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/upfiles/12052/Om33757.jpg</A></DIV>
<DIV> Mike<BR><BR><B><I>Mike East <mweast@prodigy.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>Hey Chuck,</DIV>
<DIV>Dang I hate that the Extra didnt work out but I knew for a 100CC class 3D plane you were headed for about $3500. It'll happen when the time is right..</DIV>
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<DIV>Im glad to see you have made it into the foamie thing as well. They are just entirely too much fun. I have the 3dfoamy.com extra and edge. Im flying the Razor 400 w/ 6.6:1 gearbox and 1320mah Thunder Power batteries. It has awesome power for pullout but will fly really stable at low speeds. Im weighing in at just over 14oz. Its given me confidence to hover and torque roll as low as I dare, that allows me to see what the thing is doing. So far I can hover forever and if there is no wind and if I get in a groove I can get a stable torque roll with my edge for a good while, I cant do that with my U CAN DO not nearly as stable. The most difficult thing for me is rolling harrier circles. I can do the 1st 3/4 of the circle but when it rounds the corner and is coming at me I chicken out. lol. The other day Larry Mercer and I were flying ours and he said "whats that thing you guys do when you roll with the nose up?" I said a rolling harrier circle, he said "oh yeah" and swung out
there and did a perfect RHS about 20' in diameter and 20' off the ground on the 1st try! He is such a good pilot. Pissed me off, hehehe not really<IMG src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/03.gif">. </DIV>
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<DIV>Heres a link to a thread at RCU where I posted some pics of my plane..</DIV>
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<DIV><A href="http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/Bought_Batteries%2C_Have_Pics%21_My_Edge%25%25/m_2026052/tm.htm">http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/Bought_Batteries%2C_Have_Pics%21_My_Edge%25%25/m_2026052/tm.htm</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Seeya Later,</DIV>
<DIV>Your Pal,</DIV>
<DIV>Mike<BR><BR><B><I>Chuck Hochhalter <cshochhalter@sbcglobal.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Mike: I never did get my extra fully put together… just too much money involved so I traded it for a Hangar 9 <SPAN class=SpellE>Taylorcraft</SPAN> and some cash.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">THEN…. I built a 28 inch wingspan <SPAN class=SpellE>foamie</SPAN> and am having a blast with it, although I think I could make the wings a bit wider (span) because on high angle of attack slow flight it rocks A LOT from side to side. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am currently gluing together <SPAN class=GramE>a 60</SPAN> inch IMAC legal Ultimate blue foam </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: Wingdings"><SPAN style="mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: Wingdings">J</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> WOOWOO!! When I finish I will send you <SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Talk to you again soon.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Chuck Hochhalter<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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