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<DIV><FONT size=2>Mike spoke with the judges in Ireland and Poland, and was
interested to learn that each country has it's own criteria for selecting
judges. Many countries use the same judge every two years. Many
countries are very small and have a very limited number of people
interested in F3A, so they are fortunate to find one person to send as a
judge. The USA is fortunate to have a large number of very qualified judges, so
the solution was to devise a ranking system to submit names. Back in USPJA
(US Pattern Judges Association) days, judges had a schedule of contests they had
to judge before they would be considered as the USA judge
recommendation. As I recall, a judge had to judge two Nats, two Team
Selection Contests, and quite a few local contests to even be qualified.
These people were also full-time dedicated judges. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>As has been pointed out, five USA judges have been submitted
to the CIAM (I believe) organization for 2004-2005 judges. In the past, at
a meeting in February or March of the year of the F3A World Competition, the
organizers and the FAI (CIAM) Board voted on a judge from each country
who would be invited to judge. Only a certain number of judges are
selected, so not every country has a judge selected to represent their country.
The candidate was then notified and had a short period of time
to accept. I would think the same procedure would be followed for the 2005
Championships; i.e. judges will be chosen at the meeting in Feb. or March of
2005 and then the judges selected will receive his/her official
invitation. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>This is a generalization of how judges have been chosen in the
past - but I have no official knowledge of how the 2005 judge will ultimately be
chosen.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Maureen</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=b.young8070@sbcglobal.net
href="mailto:b.young8070@sbcglobal.net">Brian Young</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 07, 2004 10:40
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Judging Controversy </DIV>
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<DIV>Just curious, do other countries use a judge ranking system? Just
wondered whether the NSRCA is pioneering this or whether the judge
ranking was modeled after some existing system. Sorry if this has been
discussed, I cant recall the details of your articles.<BR></DIV>
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<DIV><BR><B><I>Ron Van Putte <<A
href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</A>></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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Sep 7, 2004, at 8:30 PM, <A
href="mailto:BUDDYonRC@aol.com">BUDDYonRC@aol.com</A> wrote:<BR><BR>>
Pardon me Ron I must have missed it in your column. If that is the <BR>>
case then why are we all having this discussion and why is the NSRCA
<BR>> submitting a list to AMA for judge selection
recommendations by them <BR>> for the 2005 WC If this has already
been determined. Or is this list <BR>> for the 2007 WC? Sounds like the
latest post's have confused the issue <BR>> for many of us who are on the
outside looking in, can you please <BR>> expand on the fact's to
explain what is going on with this issue since <BR>> I may need to
retract statements that I made in a previous post that <BR>> were
the results of me possibly not understanding the issue.<BR><BR><BR>We
can do one of two things: We (NSRCA) can either say that nothing <BR>can be
done and let behind-the-scenes politics decide who will go to <BR>the 2005
F3A WC as the U.S. judge, or we can let everyone in the world <BR>know who
the NSRCA top-ranked judges are and force the people who want <BR>to play
politics with U.S, judge selection out into the open where <BR>their actions
will be transparent. We chose the latter. The list of <BR>the five NSRCA
top-ranked judges has been sent to AMA's Competition <BR>Department for
transmittal to the 2005 F3A WC organizing committee. In <BR>addition,
several individuals outside the U.S. have been informed of <BR>our judge
ranking process and the results of the ranking.<BR><BR>Ron Van
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