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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Maureen:<BR><BR>You are mostly correct.. The
FAI has an official list of judges submitted by their country to be eligible to
serve at a world champs. The contest management of the particular event
actually selects the judges. At that time, requests for resumes are sent
out for review. Then the final selection of 20 judges is
made.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL
32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mdunphy@avsia.com href="mailto:mdunphy@avsia.com">Maureen Dunphy</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 08, 2004 1:09
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Judging Controversy </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Mike spoke with the judges in Ireland and Poland, and was
interested to learn that each country has it's own criteria for selecting
judges. Many countries use the same judge every two years. Many
countries are very small and have a very limited number of people
interested in F3A, so they are fortunate to find one person to send as a
judge. The USA is fortunate to have a large number of very qualified judges,
so the solution was to devise a ranking system to submit names. Back in
USPJA (US Pattern Judges Association) days, judges had a schedule of contests
they had to judge before they would be considered as the USA judge
recommendation. As I recall, a judge had to judge two Nats, two Team
Selection Contests, and quite a few local contests to even be qualified.
These people were also full-time dedicated judges. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>As has been pointed out, five USA judges have been submitted
to the CIAM (I believe) organization for 2004-2005 judges. In the past,
at a meeting in February or March of the year of the F3A World Competition,
the organizers and the FAI (CIAM) Board voted on a judge from each country
who would be invited to judge. Only a certain number of judges are
selected, so not every country has a judge selected to represent their
country. The candidate was then notified and had a short
period of time to accept. I would think the same procedure would be
followed for the 2005 Championships; i.e. judges will be chosen at the meeting
in Feb. or March of 2005 and then the judges selected will receive his/her
official invitation. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>This is a generalization of how judges have been chosen in
the past - but I have no official knowledge of how the 2005 judge will
ultimately be chosen.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Maureen</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
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<A title=b.young8070@sbcglobal.net
href="mailto:b.young8070@sbcglobal.net">Brian Young</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 07, 2004 10:40
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Judging Controversy </DIV>
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<DIV>Just curious, do other countries use a judge ranking system? Just
wondered whether the NSRCA is pioneering this or whether the judge
ranking was modeled after some existing system. Sorry if this has been
discussed, I cant recall the details of your articles.<BR></DIV>
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<DIV><BR><B><I>Ron Van Putte <<A
href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</A>></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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Sep 7, 2004, at 8:30 PM, <A
href="mailto:BUDDYonRC@aol.com">BUDDYonRC@aol.com</A> wrote:<BR><BR>>
Pardon me Ron I must have missed it in your column. If that is the
<BR>> case then why are we all having this discussion and why is the
NSRCA <BR>> submitting a list to AMA for judge selection
recommendations by them <BR>> for the 2005 WC If this has already
been determined. Or is this list <BR>> for the 2007 WC? Sounds like the
latest post's have confused the issue <BR>> for many of us who are on
the outside looking in, can you please <BR>> expand on the
fact's to explain what is going on with this issue since <BR>> I
may need to retract statements that I made in a previous post that
<BR>> were the results of me possibly not understanding the
issue.<BR><BR><BR>We can do one of two things: We (NSRCA) can either say
that nothing <BR>can be done and let behind-the-scenes politics decide who
will go to <BR>the 2005 F3A WC as the U.S. judge, or we can let everyone
in the world <BR>know who the NSRCA top-ranked judges are and force the
people who want <BR>to play politics with U.S, judge selection out into
the open where <BR>their actions will be transparent. We chose the latter.
The list of <BR>the five NSRCA top-ranked judges has been sent to AMA's
Competition <BR>Department for transmittal to the 2005 F3A WC organizing
committee. In <BR>addition, several individuals outside the U.S. have been
informed of <BR>our judge ranking process and the results of the
ranking.<BR><BR>Ron Van
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