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<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow" size=3>Keith: I think you need to use more after
run oil to make sure the bearings are coated. I spin the prop with the starter
to distribute the oil. I do this with the plane inverted on a stand so the
engine is upright.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow" size=3> I was concerned too that the pooling
oil might be affecting glo plug life. I now put in a bad plug before I add the
oil and replace it with a good one after I blow out the oil at the start of a
flying session. I don't know yet if this makes a difference as I just started
doing it about 6-8 flights ago. If it does, it will be worth the little extra
effort at $5-$6 per plug!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow" size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow" size=3>Dave</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow" size=3></FONT> </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tkeithb@comcast.net href="mailto:tkeithb@comcast.net">Keith Black</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 26, 2004 10:21
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Webra bearing life
report</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Matt, I've read your comments before on getting good bearing life and
I've never understood why there is such a huge discrepancy. I'm really careful
about not running the engine too lean, I run it as rich as I can without
having it cough on mid range throttle-up. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I've also spoken to many others that have very short bearing life, indeed
this is what prompted Brian to ask Boca to produce some SS bearings. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I would be very interested in pin-pointing why there is such a
dramatic difference. Differences I can think of would include tuning
(rich vs. lean), after-run procedures, fuel, climate, storage, and I've also
heard that frequency of flying will affect bearing life.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Here's my parameters:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>1. I run the engine as rich as possible while still having good throttle
response in all ranges.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>2. I always run dry and use after-run oil. I've used different ones,
currently using about six drops of the oil from Magnum fuel. I've used more in
the past but using too much pools in the head and kills glow plugs (more
didn't seem to make a difference in bearing life anyways).</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>3. I run Magnum 10% or 15% depending on time of the year.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>4. I'm in north Texas so climate is quite hot in the summers and often
very humid. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>5. I store the plane in my garage so it's exposed to heat/cold and
humidity as the weather changes.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>6. I normally fly a couple of times a week, many times only once a
week, sometimes less frequently.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Keith Black</DIV>
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<A title=Rcmaster199@aol.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 26, 2004 8:59
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Webra bearing life
report</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>That is terrible bearing life from the set-up Keith. Mine
lasted about 100 hours (452 flights) until the pump finally went, which
meant the engine ran lean for several flights and then the bearing
went.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bearing no 2 has run all season and has about 32 hours on it so far, or
about 150 flights; same engine with a new pump.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Fuel is the same cool power I spoke about before: 50:50 mix of 5% CP
and 30% heli mix, plus one ounce of Klotz Pro per gallon</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>MattK</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Prompted by Brian's excellent news regarding
the new stainless steel bearings available for the Webra 1.45/1.60 I
thought I'd share the following info on my Webra bearing life (standard
non-stainless steel). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I keep a log of all flights including
the duration of each flight (rounded to the minute). Last week I went
through the arduous task of entering data on about 340 flights into MS
Excel. I also keep a log of each bearing change so I was able to compile
data on bearing life on over 70 hours of flight time. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All of my statistics below are reported in
hours because flights differ in duration. Also, the decimal points
represent a fraction of an hour, not minutes. For example 2.5
would be 2 1/2 hours. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I currently have three Webra engines, one in
each of my two planes and one backup (thanks to the RadioSouth $259
special). I also had one Webra in which the bearings disintegrated and the
engine was destroyed. Horizon replaced this engine free of charge (thanks
Horizon). I have broken out bearing life times based on each engine.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Webra 1: </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- Original Bearings: 12 hrs (may be off an
hour or so, first runs were not in current aircraft and not
logged)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- Bearing 2: 13.22 hrs</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- Bearing 3: 9.40 hrs</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- Bearing 4: still in engine, 0.67
hrs</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Webra 2: </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Original Bearings, 7.85 hrs (bearings
disintegrated and destroyed engine)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Webra 3: </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Originals Bearings: 11.38 hrs</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bearing 2: still being used, 6.37
hrs</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Webra 4: </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Originals Bearing 9.02 hrs
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bearing 2: still being used, 2.9 hrs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>As you can see the times for replacement vary
between 7.85 hrs and 13.22 hrs. If you take out Webra #2 that suffered the
early bearing disintegration then the range is consistently between 9
& 13 hrs. The average being 11 hrs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I found this quite interesting as it represents a
fairly consistent pattern of bearing life.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I'd be interested to hear anyone else's results
or comments. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Keith
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