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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Welp, sorry you "took affront" Jerry, but I counted
differently, as did practically everyone else. It was a major point of
conversation on Sunday. Whether or not you guys had 5 spare engines is really
irrelavent, what is relevant is the number of problems, whether they actually
required an engine change or not. Many people were chuckling about it, as can be
expected, so I did a head count myself, and got 5.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lamar does a great job of keeping the YSs around
here going at a contest and helping people when they are in need, like Eric for
instance. I hope you guys don't hold any ill will toward me for stating what I
saw, but it is heartbreaking to see a person doing so well and get repeatedly
screwed by his equipment. That's all there is to it, no more, no
less.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-M</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=JAStebbins@worldnet.att.net
href="mailto:JAStebbins@worldnet.att.net">Jerry Stebbins</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 29, 2004 11:15
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: YS Longevity and Fuel $$$
Part 2</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mike, I do not want to get into a 4c vs 2c
discussion, since whatever works for each flier is what they should, and most
do, use and fly. I doubt any top flier would use something as a
sponsorship, that would not give him the the best chance of
winning.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I do take affront when someone does not correctly
state the facts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. Lamar does not have 5 spare YS
engines-the one DZ he brought only went in Jim's plane.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. He loaned my 1.40L -pre-arranged--to a
contestant we knew was having problems with his DZ so he could change it out
and fly. The only thing wrong with the DZ when we looked at it the next
day was trash from his fuel system in the regulator.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3.He loaned his 1 spare DZ to Jim after his
engine broke. Found to be due to bad valve adjustment-burned
valves-overheated piston--broke. Again to keep Jim flying </FONT>-----
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<DIV>Thought that needed to be cleared up.</DIV>
<DIV>By the way we buy all our YS's from a hobby shop, no sponsorship from
YS-just to clear that up.</DIV>
<DIV>Jerry</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=kerlock@comcast.net href="mailto:kerlock@comcast.net">Mike
Hester</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 28, 2004 8:55
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: YS Longevity and Fuel $$$
Part 2</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So the YS out performs the 2 strokes? Pilot
workload is lower? Ok, if you say so. You're the FAI dude, I'm an adanced
nobody.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So why is it there are so many problems with
keeping a YS running at a contest? I can't remember one single contest in
the last 3 years that at least 2 people weren't having MAJOR issues with
thier YS. Sometimes 6 or 7. Of course, if you ask them about it, it never
happens...only at every contest. I simply can't say the same thing for OS
engines. Webras, yes. But locally at least, I can't remember anyone ever
having a problem with an OS. Not saying it didn't happen, but if it did, it
was so inconsequencial that it slipped by unnoticed. I'm sure it has
happened. I can't remember anyone missing a round because thier OS quit or
wouldn't run though. Heck at the last contest I went to a coupel weeks ago.
Lamar brought 5 YSs with him, and all of them were in a plane by the end of
the contest. I lost count of the number of rounds missed or cut short. If
this was the only one, I'd be inclined to think it was coincidence. But it's
all the time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ok, you top FAI guys apparently never have a
problem with YSs. is it because you learned thier every minor details, or
something else? Because there are very few people I know that have reliable,
successful runs with YS engines. Are they just ill informed? Is it the
climate? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Let's take a hypothetical. Take Joe average. He
flies alone, doesn't live close to an experienced YS owner, he has to do it
all himself. He has 2 planes: One with a brand new DZ, one with a brand new
OS 140RX. What are his chances on getting these things running, reliable and
dependable? Surely you can't tell me that the YS engine is as user friendly
as the OS. You once mentioned how us lower class guys get a "warm and fuzzy
feeling" from 2 strokes. Well, if one option is constantly fiddling and dead
sticking, and the other is getting flights in, I think I'll take my warm and
fuzzy feeling thanka very much, and what the "top" FAI guys do be damned.
If/when I get to the finals in FAI, then I may change my mind. until then,
I'd rather fly. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here's the bottom line, and you can't dispute
this. If you have an engine that works, it's much better than an engine that
doesn't work....for YOU. I could care less what the top 10 FAI guys are
using, I am not a top 10 FAI guy...and neither are over 1000 others out
there reading this. Looks like an OS 140 won Masters at the Nats last year,
I haven't looked at this year, but it doesn't matter. Looks like Jason won
FAI this year with an electric...not a YS. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Isn't it more important for the average pattern
guy coming through the ranks to have a set up he can operate, than worry
about what the top 10 FAI guys are using? Which one has the better chance of
success for a newer pattern pilot, or the average guy? I don't need anyone
to tell me, my own eyes already ansered that question long ago, and every
contest I go to reinforces it even more. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Look, if it works for you, by all means use it
and be proud of it. Whether it be YS, OS, Webra, Hacker, 3M, Supertiger, or
a DA 50 for that matter. Just because the top few (sponsored mind you)
pilots use one brand of engine doesn't mean everyone else is kidding
themselves. This line of "logic" is what gripes me the most. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That all being said, I'm going to bed because
I'm practicing in the morning. Unlike a lot of people out there, I am about
99.999% certain my engine will NOT be an issue. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cyaz,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Mike</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=troy_newman@msn.com href="mailto:troy_newman@msn.com">Troy
Newman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 28, 2004
9:00 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: YS Longevity and Fuel
$$$ Part 2</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>No John you didn't miss
anything!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Performance does matter! When the chips are
down that is. Pilot workload is lower and a major advantage with the
YS motor.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>TN</FONT></DIV>
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