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<DIV>YS 120!</DIV>
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<DIV>On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:39:49 +0000 <A
href="mailto:randy10926@comcast.net">randy10926@comcast.net</A> writes:</DIV>
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<DIV>A runaway on skis and floats. What engine is it set-up for?</DIV>
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<DIV>Randy</DIV>
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<DIV>Just as a continuing point. I am looking at a Hanson Runaway that is
owned by a friend. He never competed with it, but just wanted a pattern
ship. Only flew it a few times, and when he did, I did the take offs and
landings. He has been trying to sell it for a year now, and I was just
looking at it today with the idea of buying it for winter flying off snow
with skiis, then putting floats on it for summer flying off water. Would
really ba great flyer for little money!</DIV>
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<DIV>Terry T.</DIV>
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<DIV>On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Steven maxwell <<A
href="mailto:patternrules@sbcglobal.net">patternrules@sbcglobal.net</A>>
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<DIV>Good points Matt, one of the thing you guys looking for something
that is for knocking around you could always look farther ahead and get
like Matt says an old pattern plane put a ST2300 on it with muffler use
just decent servos not the best but good like the 9001 not sure of other
brands use sttaight 5 cell battery pack and use your last years plane for
the knock around plane, you can find or make offer on older planes fro 400
to 500.lighter weight planes and thest 2300 HAS TONS OF POWER FOR 150 all
of a sudden you have the best flying plane you've ever had.</DIV>
<DIV>Steve Maxwell<BR><BR><B><I>Rcmaster199@aol.com</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>To the folks considering another pattern type plane as a knock
around, a suggestion. Why not ask the more experienced people on this
list for the Pattern models they campaigned 3 or 4 years back? These
models often are sitting in the rafters collecting dust, and I would bet
the owners would let them go cheap. You don't want to go for the back up
since these would likely be expensive. </DIV>
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<DIV>There are several advantages to such a move. For starters, these
are true pattern models and generally are well behaved. You will not
have to learn "bad habits"; you give up nothing. Second, chances are
these were their owners' primary planes only a couple years before, so
they are generally in decent trim already. Third, you can always contact
the owners for advice. Mostly likely that will be free yet could be
invaluable to the newbies in Pattern. There are many more, but that's
enuff.</DIV>
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<DIV>Of course, if you just gotta have a 40 sized plane, then fine, do
what you must. </DIV>
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<DIV>regards,</DIV>
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<DIV>MattK</DIV>
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size=2><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
discussion-request@nsrca.org<BR>[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]On
Behalf Of Paul Horan<BR>Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 7:04 PM<BR>To:
geobet@gis.net; discussion@nsrca.org<BR>Subject: Re: Suggestions for
Sport Pattern 40 - 60 size plane<BR><BR><BR>George,<BR>The Javalin II
does sound interesting.<BR>I checked on the RCU review and it shows a
one piece wing - nice. The<BR>construction looks pretty simple and
straight forward. I<BR>am still considering getting a 3D as a
knockaround, the H9 Twist sound good.<BR>But, the Javalin II sounds
good too. I'm having<BR>trouble making up my mind. In favor of the
Twist is I can toss it in the<BR>back of the van with the wing on - no
setup just fly. If<BR>it goes in - no heartache there. It also works
well for fun flys.<BR>I am currently flying a Meridian and have just
gotten booted up from<BR>Sportsman to Intermediate. I expect to be a
cellar dweller<BR>for quite a while BUT do not want a plane that has
so many quirks that I<BR>learn bad habits while practicing
Intermediate. By bad<BR>habits I mean fighting a plane that does no
groove (lock in on pitch and<BR>roll). I've been there and done that -
its not practice<BR>just massive frustration and learning bad
habits.<BR>Back to the Javalin, how durable is it ? How much push is
necessary for<BR>inverted, this is usually a matter of
preference<BR>depending on how far the CG is moved back. What CG are
you flying at ? Any<BR>other info
?<BR>Thanks,<BR>Paul</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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