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<DIV>Having Sportsman class do the scribing that way they can watch at times and
compare what the other judge gave for a score, compared to their
interpetation, and ask questions after the flying..Would cure the dreaded
C/D issue of no scribes in the higher classes..Kill two birds with one stone
that way...Of course if there is a low turnout of Sportsman back to square one.
Just a thought! Charlie</DIV>
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<A title=Rcmaster199@aol.com
href="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 28, 2004 8:56
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: CD's</DIV>
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<DIV>I think that its a good idea to give Sportsmen the opportunity to judge
unofficially. Have a Sportsman pilot judge along with with the seasoned judges
that have be asigned for the round, any class. Have them discretely look over
the assigned judges' shoulders. No talking of course until the flights are
done, and their scores do not count, but what better way to expose Sportsmen
pilots?</DIV>
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<DIV>Do this only for the first two rounds of a contest or until all the
Sportmen have "judged", which ever is best to expose all. Takes just a bit
more planning by the CD but the service to the judging pool in any District
would be invaluable.</DIV>
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<DIV>Doesn't answer Nat's original issue with too many pilots not enough
judges, but its a start. By the second or third contest, you could have an
extra half dozen judges you otherwise wouldn't have.</DIV>
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<DIV>MattK</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 10/28/2004 7:33:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mrandmrst@comcast.net writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I have yet to be at a contest that
Sportsman pilots were given the opportunity to judge, however, I can surely
see that logic. Most Sportsman pilots, that I have met, are so
new to the Pattern world, they haven't the knowledge of proper form of the
maneuvers in the upper classes to judge them fairly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You have to know what the maneuver is supposed
to look like to judge it properly. As for myself, I have completed
about half of a complete season as a Sportsman pilot in D4, and I plan to
attend a judging seminar next year so I can be of service if called
upon.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ken</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=mailto:wgalligan@goodsonacura.com
href="mailto:wgalligan@goodsonacura.com">Wayne Galligan</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=mailto:discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:58
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: CD's</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nat,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think one should at least have attended a
judging seminar. I for one did not feel comfortable judging till I
went to a judging seminar. At that point do you have
a good idea of what constitutes the criterion for being able to
judge a given class? I think when you can keep up with
each maneuver with out any lapse in judgment to the next maneuver
your capable of judging that class. Heck... sportsman class can be a
challenge when you have a guy that flies a fast pattern. Be
fair to yourself and don't be ashamed if you missed a maneuver. That's
what N/O (not observed) rule is for. Use a scribe if you feel the
flow goes to fast so you can concentrate on the whole
picture. As Master Don Ramsey taught me... All maneuvers start
with 10 and then get deductions from there. Don't make the mistake
like I did when I first started judging of watching the whole
maneuver then giving a score. Takes to much time to think about
it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wayne GO. want be a good judge.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=mailto:natpenton@centurytel.net
href="mailto:natpenton@centurytel.net">Nat Penton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=mailto:discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 28, 2004
4:07 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> CD's</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Sulphur , La. contest was just
completed with six rounds flown. There were 23 fliers with 8 sportsman
and 7 intermediate.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The judge assignments were approached with
the following (mis) conceptions:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
Sportsman
no judging</FONT></DIV>
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size=2> Intermediate
Sports and Adv only</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This placed quite a burden on the upper
class judges.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Would appreciate comments regarding
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