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<DIV>I think that its a good idea to give Sportsmen the opportunity to judge
unofficially. Have a Sportsman pilot judge along with with the seasoned judges
that have be asigned for the round, any class. Have them discretely look over
the assigned judges' shoulders. No talking of course until the flights are done,
and their scores do not count, but what better way to expose Sportsmen
pilots?</DIV>
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<DIV>Do this only for the first two rounds of a contest or until all the
Sportmen have "judged", which ever is best to expose all. Takes just a bit more
planning by the CD but the service to the judging pool in any District would be
invaluable.</DIV>
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<DIV>Doesn't answer Nat's original issue with too many pilots not enough judges,
but its a start. By the second or third contest, you could have an extra half
dozen judges you otherwise wouldn't have.</DIV>
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<DIV>MattK</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 10/28/2004 7:33:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mrandmrst@comcast.net writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I have yet to be at a contest that
Sportsman pilots were given the opportunity to judge, however, I can surely
see that logic. Most Sportsman pilots, that I have met, are so new
to the Pattern world, they haven't the knowledge of proper form of the
maneuvers in the upper classes to judge them fairly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You have to know what the maneuver is supposed to
look like to judge it properly. As for myself, I have completed about
half of a complete season as a Sportsman pilot in D4, and I plan to attend a
judging seminar next year so I can be of service if called upon.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ken</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mailto:wgalligan@goodsonacura.com
href="mailto:wgalligan@goodsonacura.com">Wayne Galligan</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=mailto:discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:58
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: CD's</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nat,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think one should at least have attended a
judging seminar. I for one did not feel comfortable judging till I
went to a judging seminar. At that point do you have a good
idea of what constitutes the criterion for being able to judge a
given class? I think when you can keep up with each maneuver with
out any lapse in judgment to the next maneuver your capable of judging
that class. Heck... sportsman class can be a challenge when you have a
guy that flies a fast pattern. Be fair to yourself and don't be
ashamed if you missed a maneuver. That's what N/O (not observed) rule is
for. Use a scribe if you feel the flow goes to fast so you can
concentrate on the whole picture. As Master Don Ramsey taught
me... All maneuvers start with 10 and then get deductions from there.
Don't make the mistake like I did when I first started judging of
watching the whole maneuver then giving a score. Takes to much time to
think about it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wayne GO. want be a good judge.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=mailto:natpenton@centurytel.net
href="mailto:natpenton@centurytel.net">Nat Penton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=mailto:discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 28, 2004 4:07
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> CD's</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Sulphur , La. contest was just completed
with six rounds flown. There were 23 fliers with 8 sportsman and 7
intermediate.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The judge assignments were approached with
the following (mis) conceptions:</FONT></DIV>
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Sportsman
no judging</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2> Intermediate
Sports and Adv only</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This placed quite a burden on the upper class
judges.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Would appreciate comments regarding criteria.
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