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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gene,</FONT></DIV>
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size=2> There
has been a debate over this for a very long time. I was informed that the FAI
and the AMA did not agree on how to K-factor the
Immelmann.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In the days when the schedules were all being
redone it was common to see a K-1 attached to this. An outside Immelmann
being a K-2. In some previous Master's schedules that were being proposed
shows it as a K-1.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The 2005 Schedule has it shown as a K-1. I am not
married to this K number, It seems logical to have it as a K-1. I'll bow to
those who know more about how to estimate or calculate a K-factor.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for the math on the K-factor total. It
changed a few times during development. (This all took place over two years ago
BTW)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'll let John Fuqua know and he can decide whether
it is 67 or 68.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Eric.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> ; <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=Eric.henderson@comcast.net
href="mailto:Eric.henderson@comcast.net">Eric Henderson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 05, 2004 12:09
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: 2005 MASTERS - Update plain
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<DIV>Eric, </DIV>
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<DIV>I come up with 67K. Another question, was there any specific reason
that the Immelmann Turn is a K1 when it's a K2 in every other sequence
including the previous Masters sequence? </DIV>
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<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>Gene Maurice <BR><A
href="mailto:gene.maurice@comcast.net">gene.maurice@comcast.net</A> <BR>Plano,
TX</DIV>
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Original message -------------- <BR><BR>> let's see if this gets through
to the list - having message too big probs. <BR>> <BR>> 1. Takeoff
<BR>> (U) K=1 <BR>> <BR>> 2. Stall Turn, One-and-one-quarter roll
up, three-quarter roll down, Exit <BR>> Inverted (U) K=4 <BR>>
<BR>> 3. Half Outside loop, 2/4 roll (two of four point) on exit <BR>>
K=2 <BR>> <BR>> 4. Reverse Avalanche from top with 1 positive-snap
roll at bottom <BR>> (D) K=4 <BR>> <BR>> 5. 1/2 loop with 1/1
(full-roll) on exit <BR>> K=2 <BR>> <BR>> 6. 45 degree Pyramid Loop
with half-rolls on up and down 45 degree legs <BR>> (U) K=3 <BR>>
<BR>> 7. Humpty Bump, push or pull on top, one-quarter roll up,
three-quarter roll <BR>> down K=3 <BR>> <BR>> 8. Quarter, half,
quarter roll (All roll components are in same direction) <BR>> (D) K=4
<BR>> <BR>> 9. Half Inside Loop, 2/4 roll (two of four-point) on exit
<BR>> K=2 <BR>> <BR>> 10. Vertical Square Eight from the Middle,
Pilot's option which square to do <BR>> first (U) K=4 <BR>> <BR>>
11. Mid-entry Figure-9 - Pull 3/4 loop first, 1/2 roll (one of two-point)
<BR>> roll down K=3 <BR>> <BR>> 12. Slow Roll (1/1) <BR>> (D)
K=3 <BR>> <BR>> 13. Humpty Bump with Pilot's Option. <BR>> K=2
<BR>> <BR>> 14. Square Loop with 2/4 roll (two of four-point) on all
sides. First 2/4 on <BR>> up-line (U) K=5 <BR>> <BR>> 15. Stall
Turn with 1/2 roll (one of two-point) up and down. <BR>> K=2 <BR>>
<BR>> 16. Horizontal Inside-Outside Diamond-8 with 1/1 roll (one of
one-point) <BR>> on each center 45 down-line. (First diamond begins past
center) <BR>> (D) K=5 <BR>> <BR>> 17. Immelmann Turn half roll
(1/2) on exit <BR>> K=1 <BR>> <BR>> 18. 45 Degree Down line, one
positive Snap Roll <BR>> (U) K=3 <BR>> <BR>> 19. Top Hat,
three-quarter roll up, one quarter roll down, Exit Upright <BR>> K=3
<BR>> <BR>> 20. Reverse Knife-Edge <BR>> (D) K=4 <BR>> <BR>>
21. Half Square Loop with 1/2 roll (one of two-point) up <BR>> K=2
<BR>> <BR>> 22. Two and a half Turn Spin, with 1/2 roll (one of
two-point) on horizontal <BR>> exit line (U) K=4 <BR>> <BR>> 23.
Landing <BR>> (U) K=1 <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Total K-Factor = 66
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