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<DIV>Seriously, do you like the idea of unknowns? Ed Deaver and I discussed doing this at a contest this year and got just as many "no ways" as "sounds fun". Most of the "no ways" were from Masters and FAI. Wouldn't it be a treat to do unknowns and have only Intermed-Adv participate? Might cause a man-check.</DIV>
<DIV>--Lance</DIV>
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<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>District 6 AVP <BR>www.aeroslave.com</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=858572417-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Ditto on the report....like Keith said, that looks tougher than Advanced....great practice. I feel the same on the Unknown's too, love to try some of that:)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=858572417-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Great Job to everyone that made it happen.... and thanks for sharing the report.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=858572417-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Chris White</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Keith Black<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 08, 2004 11:24 AM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Results are IN!!! Houston TX area 402 Pattern Shootout/Grudge Match<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>WOW, sounds like you guys had a great time. Congrats to all for participating and congrats to Mark for the victory.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All I can say about the unknown is HOLY SMOKE! That looks more difficult than advanced, but it's an awesome pattern! Don definitely gets my vote for being on the sequence planning committee.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BTW, were competitors allowed to drop the unknown?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have to say, I'm really envious, I'd love to incorporate unknowns into our regular contests.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keith Black</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 08, 2004 8:33 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Results are IN!!! Houston TX area 402 Pattern Shootout/Grudge Match</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Well for anyone interested...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The Houston Area 402 Pattern Shootout/Grudge Match was fantastic...The weather was beautiful - low 70's, Low humidity. Wind blowing in at about 5-10 MPH.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>We had a really fun group of compettors and everyone seemed to have a good time. No-one had any equipment problems, etc...so it was truly a test of flying skills among the some great competitors.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>We flew the four rounds in similar fashion to any other Pattern meet and dropped the lowest round for each competitor. The fourth round was a really nice unknown sequence that Don Ramsey created for us. Flying an unknown sequence was a little scary, but in the end it was an exciting challenge for everyone and they seemed to enjoy it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The results were as follows:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Mark Hunt - 3000</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>David Greisens - 2879</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Martin Stohr - 2869</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Chuck Hockhalter - 2802</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Richard Lewis - 2755</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Jim Sheffield - 2670</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Tommy Scarmado - 2434</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Steve Mintor - 1458</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Mark won all four rounds and kicked our A$$es soundly...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>David is a serious threat and seems to be getting better every time we see him...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Martin is going to be tough next season, because he flies almost every day and is coming up to speed rapidly...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Chuck was pretty solid and with his new 2M ride next season, he's going to be hard to beat...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I flew my usual inconsistencies and it shows, I need to burn some fuel to get in the game with these guys...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Jim flew well, just didn't seem to have his "A" game with him...perhaps he left it in the bottom of a Margarita glass Saturday night (Great Party BTW....thanks)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Tommy flew all unknown rounds - Sunday was his first time ever to fly the intermediate sequence and he really did a good job.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Steve Mintor (a very new Sportsman flyer) missed round one and did not fly the unknowns, but showed real heart just for wanting to fly.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The unknowns were as follows:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Takeoff</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Stall Turn with 1/4 up and down, exit upright (C)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Immelman with 2/4 exit upright (T)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Reverse Triangle Loop, exit upright (C)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Bunt no rolls, exit inverted (T)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Square loop with 1/2 roll on top, exit upright (C)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Humpty Bump 1/4 up and down, exit upright (T)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Top Hat with 1/2 rolls in verticals, exit upright (C)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Figure 9, 1/2 roll up, pull over top, exit upright (T)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>2/4 point roll, exit inverted (C)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Figure 9, 1/2 roll down, push over top, exit inverted (T)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Double Immelman, 1/2 roll on top, no roll out, exit upright (C)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Half Square with 1/2 roll up, exit upright (T)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>45 degree down, positive snap roll, exit upright (C)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Landing</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>This sequence was very well done. The figure nines really make this sequence a nice presentation.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks to Don Ramsey and John Forrestere(sp?) again for taking time to come out and judge for us...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=758575613-08112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Richard</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>