<DIV>Arch, well put.</DIV>
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<DIV>My problem so far in this maneuver has been making the upside resemble a loop, the snap ends up nose high.<BR><BR><B><I>Archie Stafford <astafford@3states.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">This really is not that much tougher than any other maneuver. With the<BR>breaking available today with the large fuselages. When you exit the half<BR>loop with 2/4 if you come off the power and slow way down, much the same way<BR>you would for a spin, except don't stall. You will not have that much<BR>forward speed. With the amount of power available today with these planes.<BR>I can't see there being much more force on the wing tube, than an Advanced<BR>flyer taking a 1.40DZ on a light pattern plane wide open into the top of a<BR>normal avalanche. I saw the FAI guys do this maneuver last year, and done<BR>well it is a very pretty maneuver and the snaps really are not that violent<BR>at the bottom. I don't think maneuver is anywhere near as violent as the 2<BR>downline negative snaps, FAI did a few years ago. This is a maneuver that<BR>will require excellent speed management, but
when done well is a very pretty<BR>maneuver. I think every year there is a rule change. There is one maneuver<BR>that at first seems to be very difficult. On the last rules cycle, very few<BR>people were hitting the 1 1/2 snap on the 45 downline (a maneuver I wish<BR>they had left in this time instead of the 1 positive snap), but last year at<BR>the nats. Almost everyone was hitting the 1 1/2 snap after flying it for a<BR>length of time.<BR><BR>Arch<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] On<BR>Behalf Of Gene Maurice<BR>Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:42 AM<BR>To: discussion@nsrca.org<BR>Subject: RE: Warning to Masters Pilots<BR><BR>More food for thought on this maneuver................<BR><BR>Picture this: winds blowing 25 MPH, You find yourself out just a little to<BR>far, loop got a little to big, you're close to the top of the trees, you<BR>execute the snap, looks good, deeply stalled, comes around and for a
change<BR>wing are level, hit the power, MOTORS DEAD, so is your plane!!!!!! No air<BR>speed, no energy left, no power, not enough altitude, and BTW you're over a<BR>forest, a lake, a primordial swamp, or some other aircraft eating terrain!!!<BR><BR><BR>THIS MANEUVER IS GOING TO CLAIM AIRPLANES!!!<BR><BR>Gene Maurice<BR>gene.maurice@comcast.net<BR>Plano, TX<BR>NSRCA 877<BR>AMA 3408<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] On<BR>Behalf Of Joe Lachowski<BR>Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 7:37 AM<BR>To: discussion@nsrca.org<BR>Subject: Warning to Masters Pilots<BR><BR>A few weeks ago I was experimenting with the speed/enegy required to do the <BR>loop with snap roll on the bottom. Be forewarned, I went into the loop with <BR>a little too much energy and bent my wing tube. I'm beginning to wonder <BR>whether this particular manuever should be changed for safety
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