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<DIV>Having read much of the concern about the Avalanche - </DIV>
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<DIV>- I think pilots with very good speed control will have less problems with
this maneuver - in part because they will have the plane slowed down before the
snap, and in part because having a consistent entry speed will make the snap
easier to hit consistently.</DIV>
<DIV>- Most planes need less control throw for snaps at higher speeds.</DIV>
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<DIV>A way to "warm up" to this maneuver might be to fly a pretty pronounced
flat spot on the bottom of the loop - it will give some time for speed to bleed
off and allow a good visual of the attitude and track of the plane prior to
snap and after the snap. Once the snap is being completed comfortably and
consistently, gradually reduce the flat spot until it is gone.</DIV>
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<DIV>Regards,</DIV>
<DIV>Dave Lockhart</DIV>
<DIV>DaveL322@comcast.net</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=roho2@rcpattern.com href="mailto:roho2@rcpattern.com">Ed Hartley</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 15, 2004 11:48
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Warning to Masters
Pilots</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>I've flown this Masters thing just two times now. I managed
to get through it both times, not a thing of beauty but I believe this is
going to be one of the best flowing and attractive patterns we've had in
years!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Another note on the avalanche, you just need a ton of power
to get back to the top. I do it with no power coming down hill so
the plane was almost stopped after the snap but getting back was not a
problem. Once again, not a thing of beauty but it will get better and better I
betcha!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Ed</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Rcmaster199@aol.com
href="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 15, 2004 11:20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Warning to Masters
Pilots</DIV>
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<DIV>GEEZ WHEEZ, what are youze guys??? Masters animals or newbie whinnies??
LOL </DIV>
<DIV>hey jus' kiddin' and like Ed sez, "just do it"</DIV>
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<DIV>MattK</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 11/15/2004 10:58:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, <A
href="mailto:roho2@rcpattern.com">roho2@rcpattern.com</A> writes:</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>I
quit flying FAI because of the snap on the 45 degree up line. I'm just not
<BR>going to change planes to make them maneuver specific. The last thing
we <BR>need is a positive or negative snap up. I think it's fine just as
it is. <BR>Just work on it a bit and I suspect it will be
fine.<BR><BR>Ed<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Gene
Maurice" <gene.maurice@comcast.net><BR>To:
<discussion@nsrca.org><BR>Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:54
AM<BR>Subject: RE: Warning to Masters Pilots<BR><BR><BR>> How about a
Humpty Bump, Pull, Full Roll Down, Push, 1 Pos. or Neg. Snap <BR>>
Up.<BR>><BR>><BR>> Gene Maurice<BR>>
gene.maurice@comcast.net<BR>> Plano, TX<BR>> NSRCA 877<BR>> AMA
3408<BR>><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From:
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]
<BR>> On<BR>> Behalf Of Joe Lachowski<BR>> Sent: Monday, November
15, 2004 9:17 AM<BR>> To: discussion@nsrca.org<BR>> Subject: Re:
Warning to Masters Pilots<BR>><BR>> Electrics. Don't forget the
gearbox?<g><BR>><BR>> So who's going to submit an
emergency proposal and a replacement manuever<BR>> to go with
it?<BR>><BR>>>From: Rcmaster199@aol.com<BR>>>Reply-To:
discussion@nsrca.org<BR>>>To:
discussion@nsrca.org<BR>>>Subject: Re: Warning to Masters
Pilots<BR>>>Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:07:27
EST<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>In a message dated 11/15/2004
9:42:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,<BR>>>gene.maurice@comcast.net
writes:<BR>>><BR>>>execute the snap, looks good, deeply
stalled, comes around and for a<BR>>>change<BR>>>wing
are level, hit the power, MOTORS DEAD, so is your plane!!!!!!
No<BR>>>air<BR>>>speed, no energy left, no power, not enough
altitude, and BTW you're over<BR>>>a<BR>>>forest, a
lake, a primordial swamp, or some other aircraft
eating<BR>>>terrain!!!<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>THIS
MANEUVER IS GOING TO CLAIM AIRPLANES!!!<BR>>><BR>>>Gene
Maurice<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>ELECTRICS
ANYONE???<BR>>><BR>>>MATTK</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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