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<DIV>Adding landing gear blocks for retracts in the wing is lighter than
adding a large block in the fuse for fixed gear,
particularly where a wide bodied model is concerned. Retract blocks in
the wing add about 0.5-0.75 oz each panel. Retracts and fixed gear overall
weights are pretty close to one another. </DIV>
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<DIV>That is if you use the typical fixed gear commercially available. There
are alternate, significantly lighter fixed gear</DIV>
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<DIV>MattK</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 11/14/2004 9:33:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
michael.lance2@comcast.net writes:</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Arial Alternative" color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Alternative'">All,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Arial Alternative" color=blue size=3><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Arial Alternative" color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Alternative'">Just as
a point of reference, are these wings set up for retracts or not? <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>My guess is
not.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Arial Alternative" color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Alternative'">Mike<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>Rcmaster199@aol.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, November 14, 2004 6:21
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
Re: Applying poly glue</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Scott,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Use
light wood and no more than 1 pound density foam core. Make sure the sheeting
for a wing weighs in at around 40 grams but no more than 50 grams each. Be
very fussy about the sleeve fit into the foam core; glue makes for a very
poor filler.The lightest sleeves are probably the PBG glass. I capture
mine on the top and bottom with 1/8" balsa spars, full length plus 3 inches,
rather than with a vertical lite ply piece at the end of the tube. Lighter and
stronger when finished.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> If you don't
go hog wild on theglue, the typical 500 sq inch panel will come in at around 8
1/2 to 9 ozs. I use no balsa tip blocks on my wings, just an end plate of lite
ply that adds maybe 5 grams. Of course wing panels are cut with that in
mind. Lite ply has proven far more durable on inevitable runway scrapes
and more accurate than balsa tip blocks since there's no
shaping.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As far
as removing some of the foam via honeycombing, I've done that too and saved
another ounce or so per panel. However at 9 ozs the wings will fly great.
These will typically finish out at around 12 1/2 -13 1/2 ozs each ready for
equipment. There's nothing wrong with that weight. If more weight loss is
desired, one should look elsewhere. There are plenty of places to remove
weight.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">MattK<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In a
message dated 11/14/2004 8:17:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
js.smith@verizon.net writes:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>Now I just
have to figure out how you guys are making 9oz wing
panels...!!<BR><BR>Scott</SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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