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<DIV><SPAN class=053083120-17112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>It
even fits! Well, I have gained a few since then ...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=053083120-17112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Fireproof underwear is awfully warm, and it gets even warmer in the
car.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </P>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>DaveL322@comcast.net<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 17, 2004 3:31
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] RE:
3-bladed props for OS160FX<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>I think Dean could borrow a nice nomex suit from one of his drag racing
buddies.........<G></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It would be fun, just to see who holds the
torch and who twists the prop....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR>NSRCA 199 AMA 46373<BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net/">www.rcaerobats.net</A></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=d.pappas@kodeos.com href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com">Dean
Pappas</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 17, 2004
2:23 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [SPAM] RE: 3-bladed
props for OS160FX</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=914412220-17112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Dave and I are trying to decide if he sings and I dance, or the
other way around. Either way, bring ear-plugs!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=914412220-17112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Sounds reasonable, though.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><A
href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com">d.pappas@kodeos.com</A></FONT> </P>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>randy10926@comcast.net<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November
17, 2004 9:45 AM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B>
[SPAM] RE: 3-bladed props for OS160FX<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>How about a demo/seminar from the Dave and Dean show at the NATS
next year?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Randy</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=331373014-17112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>And now, the Dave and Dean show have spoken
...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </P>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>DaveL322@comcast.net<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 17,
2004 9:22 AM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B>
RE: 3-bladed props for OS160FX<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>...and a further variable....</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>It is quite difficult to measure the pitch of the prop without
knowing the zero angle of attack of the airfoil used on the prop
(which often changes along the span of the prop). So the pitch
reading from a pitch gauge is really just a reference. For the
most part, I've found that reducing the pitch of an APC close to the
root results in a fairly equal reduction along the span of the prop
(as measured on a Prather pitch gauge).</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Regards,</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Dave</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV> I guess if you want to maintain a true helical pitch,
if you are reducing the pitch then you will need to add some pitch
back towards the tips. Higher pitch props have more twist along
the blade than lower pitch props. So if you depitch at one point
towards the root, then you end up with a blade that effectively
has washout. Correct? That may be good for our purpose.</DIV>
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<DIV>Bob.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Dean Pappas <d.pappas@kodeos.com></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=514511421-16112004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Claudio,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=514511421-16112004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Ideally you would twist the prop at several
places to acheiv helical pitch. In practice, this is entirely
unnecessary. Twist once, as close to the hub as practical, and
that will work just fine. I see that Dave L added more detail to
the procedure.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=514511421-16112004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>until later,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT>
<BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT>
<BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT>
<BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT>
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