<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Good Note Bob. Sounds simple, but this new Masters sequence is going to highlight one singular pattern fundamental above all.......... ready................ "exiting maneuvers with wings level, level flight, on heading." If you can do this, you will be able to create short line lengths in between upwind turnaround maneuvers and centered rolling maneuvers. If you exit maneuvers, and need to fix a few things, the centered rolling maneuvers will look rushed and will be displaced from center. Until exiting maneuvers wings level, in level flight is "Mastered," the tendency will be to fly far out, which is itself a downgrade. Possibly, the most important practice for this pattern could be simply, exiting the upwind maneuvers on heading, wings level, in level flight.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">This is EXACTLY what I felt was the biggest transition (for me) going from Masters 2003 to FAI 2004. The FAI pattern demands exiting maneuvers locked on, to have room for the rolling maneuvers. Same will now be true of the new Masters pattern. </font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">It will be fun to coach and watch. I see some close parallels to the P05 pattern in terms of positioning difficulty. </font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Arial">The Fig. 9 occurs at the point in the sequence where you SHOULD be toward your outermost flight line horizontal distance anyway. It can be a bit larger because of that, but the REAL problem with this manuever is centering the SLOW ROLL maneuver AFTER it in the box that's left. Don't forget the exit of the Slow Roll into the Humpty has to have a line, too!!! And THAT Humpty is a "conventional" type with an in-line loop on top, rather than move in/out type. That means IT takes a pretty big chunk of real estate, also.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial"> If you keep the entire Fig. 9 in the box, and keep it pretty tight, then there will be space for the slow roll after.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial"> This is one of those sequences where horizontal flight distance OUT must be managed VERY critically, and no mistakes can be made. Back on Manuever #7, you better choose to go OUT with the Humpty, or by the time the Figure 9 happens it will be in your face, rushed, pinched, and presentation will blow up.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Arial"><b>From:</b> </font><a href=mailto:patterndude@comcast.net><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><u>Lance Van Nostrand</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Arial"> </font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Arial">Several people have said that the 1/4 loop radius must match the 3/4 loop radius in the fig 9. If this is so, then a large 3/4 loop leads to a disaster because the matching 1/4 loop will finish too close to center to do a 3+ second slow roll. It these radii must match then as a judge, I'll bet that if I see a large 3/4 loop, theres a 2 point downgrade about to happen next.</font>
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<br><font size=3 face="Arial">Jim, your assessment is correct. There are many ways to execute the Fig 9, and they all depend on the size of he 3/4 loop. A tiny loop will make for a little longer vert line, and a very large loop, for a little shorter vert line. </font>
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<br><font size=3 face="Arial">Keep in mind the exiting 1/4 loop needs the same diameter as the 3/4 loop, which means it has to start sooner rather than later, and that will shorten the vert line, as long as the exiting altitude is unchanged. </font>
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<br><font size=3 face="Arial"> Matt<br>
Ref: fig 9 I take this to mean the vert. line starts at the tangent to the 3/4 loop on the downline. This means part of the vert. line is above the entry line and must be considered part of the straight downline for centering.<br>
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