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<DIV>If I read both your commentaries correctly, the elevator mix when
at idle, to help eliminate the up pitch of the down line, should also help
the inverted spin entries. Particularly on a nose heavy plane (or one with
considerable pos incidence), it seems to me that down elv mix at idle
should help both conditions. What did i miss?</DIV>
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<DIV>MattK</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 11/28/2004 9:34:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dszczur@maranatha.net writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lance, thanks very much for the comments.
Bottom line is do what ever it takes to make the plane fly the way you want it
to. Mechanical, or electronic, or both. The vertical stab helps to
stabilize in neg spin entry, and because I fly nose heavy, I don't feel the
extra down mix in a spin entry. Now, realize I don't have very much
mix in... so that is less of an overall factor.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Don</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A title=mailto:patterndude@comcast.net
href="mailto:patterndude@comcast.net">Lance Van Nostrand</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=mailto:discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 26, 2004 1:14
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: 5 Steps to Trimming a
Pattern Plane</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Don,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Clearly this works for you, but I am still
unconvinced. Wouldn't more pos incidence in the wing, to assist spin
entries, only work for upright spins? FAI has inverted spins, and this
should work in the opposite direction. Same goes for the Throttle/Elv
mix. When you reduce throttle to enter the spin, the elv mix that was put in
for downlines might affect your spin approach. And when the spin entry
is inverted you'll have to really get on the down elv to maintain level
approach. I guess it can work, but it seems like its introducing
factors that make the pilot begin to fly against the mix.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=mailto:dszczur@maranatha.net
href="mailto:dszczur@maranatha.net">Don Szczur</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=mailto:discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 22, 2004 10:29
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: 5 Steps to Trimming a
Pattern Plane</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lance, incidence may take care of pitch or
roll, but not always. In fact, I found that changing wing
(panel) incidence has the most dramatic impact on slow flight, such
as entries to a spin. CG and wing balance also play some part
in this mix. The electronic mixing takes care of what incidence
changes, (wing warping, etc.) will not address in a down line, or, if
you choose to just electronically dial out the tendency.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cheers!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial
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