<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=GENERATOR></HEAD>
<BODY>
<DIV><SPAN class=796172304-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
agree Vince.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=796172304-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=796172304-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>HUGE
undertaking, but the results would be fantastic. Imagine the ability to
compare yourself to all judges across the country. Now that's motivation
to better yourself at your craft.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=796172304-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=796172304-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Hmmm..... At the same time, how about a national PILOT ranking system,
similar to the one used in the USTA ( Tennis ). I believe they know
their rank in their given class on a national basis. Might be kind of fun,
and good for us guys who can't travel to the Nats! We could still be
"competing" with guys from the other districts! </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=796172304-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=796172304-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Publish the top judges and the top competitors in each class in the
K-Factor.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Chris Larson<BR>L & D Sales<BR>209-274-2176 Office /
Fax<BR>209-304-0865 Cellular </FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>vicenterc@comcast.net<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 13, 2004 7:49
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org; NSRCA List<BR><B>Cc:</B> Derek
Koopowitz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: FW: Motion to adopt.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>I am firm believer of statistics. I have not chance to read the
program proposed but I am sure that should be based on statistical
formulation. In statistics, more data is compiled more valid will be the
results and conclusions obtained from that analysis. I am not
am expert but I would like to see in the future a process of
judge selection that is based on all information compiled in ALL
contests around the nation. Yes, I am proposing that all data be
compiled and used to determine the best judges. I don't think that this
is very difficult task since the data is already available in electronic
format. We will need to make sure that the CD sends the information to
the NSRCA. I know that there will be many happy faces if some of
the new candidates support this effort.<SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>
<P class=MsoNormal> Mortal guys like me will say that this is
impossible. However, this is very easy task to someone expert in
databases and computer programming. We just need to make sure that all
scoring programs produce the data in the format required. That program
will use the judge NSRCA number to send the information to be processed at the
end of the year or season. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>The results of a process like this will be of immense
value. First, we will know how we are doing compared
with others as judges in the nation. Second, we will have the
opportunity to try to improve each year base on the feedback. In
the nats., we will have more flexibility in selecting judges for different
classes and team selection.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p>Sincerely,</o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p>Vince Bortone</o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>> Just goes to
show how some people have selected memory loss with regard to <BR>> the
judge evaluation program... Please read the quoted lines that RVP quoted
<BR>> below - Eric H. is VERY familiar with the judge selection process and
was <BR>> instrumental in getting it through the board of directors on
12/10/2002. <BR>> <BR>> Why is he questioning it now when he proposed
its vote? Oh I get it... It's <BR>> election time! <BR>> <BR>>
-----Original Message----- <BR>> From: Ron Van Putte
[mailto:vanputte@nuc.net] <BR>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:41 AM
<BR>> To: officers@nsrca.org <BR>> Cc: Tony Stillman <BR>> Subject:
Re: Motion to adopt. <BR>> <BR>> [NSRCA Officers] <BR>> I second the
motion. <BR>> <BR>> As I explained at the Nats board meeting, Tony
Stillman, Matt Kebabjian, Don <BR>> Ramsey and I have hammered out the
skeleton of the judge evaluation prog </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>