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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Chris/Vince:<BR><BR>The judging program that the
Team created does just that! You can see the standings on the NSRCA
website. The standings are created from the data of contests where we use
a minimum of 5 judges per flight. This is only done (to my knowledge) at
the US Nats FINALS, and the Team Selection Contest. The requirement of 5
judges in essential to get valid statistics. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL
32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=csl@direcway.com href="mailto:csl@direcway.com">Chris Larson</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 13, 2004 10:32
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: FW: Motion to adopt.</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=796172304-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
agree Vince.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=796172304-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=796172304-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>HUGE
undertaking, but the results would be fantastic. Imagine the ability to
compare yourself to all judges across the country. Now that's motivation
to better yourself at your craft.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=796172304-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Hmmm..... At the same time, how about a national PILOT ranking system,
similar to the one used in the USTA ( Tennis ). I believe they
know their rank in their given class on a national basis. Might be kind
of fun, and good for us guys who can't travel to the Nats! We could
still be "competing" with guys from the other
districts! </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=796172304-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=796172304-14122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Publish the top judges and the top competitors in each class in the
K-Factor.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Chris Larson<BR>L & D Sales<BR>209-274-2176 Office /
Fax<BR>209-304-0865 Cellular </FONT></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>vicenterc@comcast.net<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 13,
2004 7:49 PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org; NSRCA List<BR><B>Cc:</B>
Derek Koopowitz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: FW: Motion to
adopt.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>I am firm believer of statistics. I have not chance to read the
program proposed but I am sure that should be based on statistical
formulation. In statistics, more data is compiled more valid will be
the results and conclusions obtained from that analysis. I am not
am expert but I would like to see in the future a process of
judge selection that is based on all information compiled in ALL
contests around the nation. Yes, I am proposing that all data be
compiled and used to determine the best judges. I don't think that
this is very difficult task since the data is already available in
electronic format. We will need to make sure that the CD sends the
information to the NSRCA. I know that there will be many happy
faces if some of the new candidates support this effort.<SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal> Mortal guys like me will say that this is
impossible. However, this is very easy task to someone expert in
databases and computer programming. We just need to make sure that all
scoring programs produce the data in the format required. That program
will use the judge NSRCA number to send the information to be processed at
the end of the year or season. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>The results of a process like this will be of
immense value. First, we will know how we are doing compared
with others as judges in the nation. Second, we will have the
opportunity to try to improve each year base on the feedback. In
the nats., we will have more flexibility in selecting judges for different
classes and team selection.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p>Sincerely,</o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p>Vince Bortone</o:p></P></DIV>
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<DIV>-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>> Just goes
to show how some people have selected memory loss with regard to <BR>>
the judge evaluation program... Please read the quoted lines that RVP quoted
<BR>> below - Eric H. is VERY familiar with the judge selection process
and was <BR>> instrumental in getting it through the board of directors
on 12/10/2002. <BR>> <BR>> Why is he questioning it now when he
proposed its vote? Oh I get it... It's <BR>> election time! <BR>>
<BR>> -----Original Message----- <BR>> From: Ron Van Putte
[mailto:vanputte@nuc.net] <BR>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:41 AM
<BR>> To: officers@nsrca.org <BR>> Cc: Tony Stillman <BR>> Subject:
Re: Motion to adopt. <BR>> <BR>> [NSRCA Officers] <BR>> I second
the motion. <BR>> <BR>> As I explained at the Nats board meeting, Tony
Stillman, Matt Kebabjian, Don <BR>> Ramsey and I have hammered out the
skeleton of the judge evaluation prog
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