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<DIV><SPAN class=837212519-17122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Mike,
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<DIV><SPAN class=837212519-17122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> I am sure you could sell the kit you bought on this
list or on RCU. Then stick with the Focus II and it will simplify your
life.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=837212519-17122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Rich</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Pascale, Mike<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 17, 2004 2:16
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Newbie with a bad
experience at pattern<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=216131519-17122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
understand that, which is why I will continue and persevere.
Thanks.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=216131519-17122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Mike</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Bob Pastorello<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 17, 2004 12:06
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Newbie with a
bad experience at pattern [PMX:]<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mike, your story sounds like it was bad for
you. If so, I apologize.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BUT - Your tale is the exception, by far.
If you browse a bit on RCU, ask some questions, ask on this list, I think
you'd find that 99.9% of the time a "newbie" gets OVERWHELMED with offers of
help. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's sure been my experience.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As to your comment about Masters not forgetting
where we came from - well, some may. But certainly not all, and
certainly MOST Masters pilots *ARE* the guys that are advocating for reason,
logic, and cost-effectiveness in the game.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> We know what it took to get
started, and did it at a time when things weren't quite as rosy as they are
right now, let me tell you.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bad experiences happen, but I hope that
regardless, you'll look at the broader picture. There isn't a finer
group of guys who are committed to the game than Pattern
Pilots.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR>NSRCA 199 AMA 46373<BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net">www.rcaerobats.net</A></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=VPASCAL@citgo.com href="mailto:VPASCAL@citgo.com">Pascale,
Mike</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 17, 2004 10:56
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Newbie with a bad experience
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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Let me tell you a short story from a newbie I
flew for appox 10yrs till 1978 when I retired. Went to my first pattern
contest in 2003 and said that's what I want to do seen all those pretty
birds and had to have one asked around and was told someone said he
sells kits. He lives in middle of Texas. all right asked if he had
any for sell no but can get me a kit in a couple months could hardly wait
e-mailed him told me how much $ 495.00 wing Fuse. And stab and a set of
instruction. Well the fuselage was cracked in two place the wings cores
had no holes cut in them as I said no nothing just cores now I'm lost so I
email him and he says send them back at my cost another $45.00 and still
no idea how to build this plane this guy Tells me about A person in
Nederland TX that fly's pattern maybe he cane help I call him and Buddy
Brammer, Larry Mercer Ray Rhodes took me under there wing now ever Friday
I was going back and forth trying to get my fist patter plane in the air
had the fuselage ready to fill in all the holes left from the molds I
start epoxy and micro balloons looking good till I start sanding
them smooth and low and be hold all the stuff I just put on fell off now
I'm in to $750 and still no were near being done well guess what the
fuselage is setting on my shelf and still no pattern plane. I flew a U CAN
DO in my first contest and second went Nederland TX and third
to Hot springs and flew over there won as I was the only sportsman flying
ever one was encouraging but still no patter plane tried to talk to the
people that sold me MY fist plane and was told in so many words I didn't
do ii right now I have a contest in Lake Charles La so guess what I flew
the U CAN DO in 25 mph and didn't win but had a lot of fun Thanks to
Buddy, Ray, and Larry,Ed , Ned </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now I have a Focus 11and have spent appox
2500.00 and still haven't flown a patter plane I see this guys name all
the time on this web site and they have all the ans . But he had no TIME
for a newbie except my money and you all want to know why your membership
is dropping as one of the guys said take someone under your wing its
amazing what will come out maybe a world Champaign One more thing You all
that fly Masters and up some times it helps to remember where you all
started some time you can't see the ground for all the trees.Its not fun
when you're the only one flying.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>I will fly pattern and will win but no help
from the people from Dallas Fort worth area </FONT></P><BR>
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