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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hmm, Dean, will you be out in the snow and cold
today flight testing ??? VBG, OK it's cold as you know what here in Tn too !!!
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed M.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=d.pappas@kodeos.com href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com">Dean Pappas</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 20, 2004 3:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Excelleron ST'd</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=861235717-20122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Funny you should mention that, Randy ...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=861235717-20122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I am
in the process of flight trimming the Excelleron for a review in Model
Aviation. The whole goal of the review is to put together a cost-effective and
non-intimidating package, to allow a Sport flyer to 1) feel what a
groovy, well set-up airplane feels like; and 2) have a competitive mount
for the first couple of seasons of Pattern practice and or competition. I am
presently trimming the plane, and for the purposes of the review, that amounts
to a baby course in trimming. The kit includes a soft mount, which the
instructions warn may not be sufficient for a 120 four-stroke, but looked
perfectly adequate for a 120 two-stroke, to me. As it turns out, it works
great with a Magnum 120 two-stroke. Right now, I am working with the
Magnum factory to get the engine just right: the carb was originally
sized for higher RPM, and the fuel draw was not right. The factory have
been incredibly cooperative, and if the engine with revised carb runs
like it does with the OS7M (yes the OS FSR 60 carb) then we have a
$150 solution that allowed me to fly the FAI schedules with plenty of
horsepower, just yesterday.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=861235717-20122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>A
good running 120 two-stroke is a great solution for the Excelleron, turning a
15-10 APC, in the mid eights, with the stock muffler. Short of convincing
a newbie to put the right glow-plug in the engine, we can eliminate the engine
related learning curve. Mine is about 8-3/4 lbs. Oh yeah, all this on 10%
fuel. I'm sure that a Tiger 23 would be a good choice, too. The 31 ounce
Magnum did not make the plane too nose-heavy.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=861235717-20122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Later,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>randy10926@comcast.net<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 20,
2004 12:38 PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
Excelleron ST'd<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>I looked at the Jett .90, 1.00 and 1.20. They look real nice; but
seem somewhat pricey. Maybe for my next one. As I will be flying
my Excelleron90 at pattern primers, I am trying to go lower cost
options. Ordered a Tiger Shark 120 which I plan on using with the
stock muffler. Should be low enough cost that the average flyer could
afford to try pattern.</DIV>
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<DIV>Randy </DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=432345616-20122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>How about a Jett or Nelson .90? I am really impressed with the Jett
but have never seen one. The web site description is
magnificent.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=432345616-20122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Rich</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Randy<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 19, 2004 12:23
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Excelleron
ST'd<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any more about the ST2300. Looked at
RC Universe, but how does it fly? Any problems with the
CG.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My OS91FX is back to a stock carb but have
gone with the OS update for the rear needle valve assembly. It is
the rear needle vavle assembly for the 65LA. Mounted it on the
fire wall. Put the Utlra thrust muffle on it. Seems to have
picked at lot of RPMs. You open the needle valve a whole turn when
changing from the stock to the ultra thurst muffler. Only test
runs on the apartment patio and man it is really LOUD. May be too
load to use in pattern.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyway, thinking of a belated Christmas
gift to myself. So what would be better on an Excelleron90 -
Tiger Shark 120, Magnum 120AR, thunder tiger 120, Webra 120,
or Super Tigre 2300?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Randy</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=rcaerobob@cox.net href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">Bob
Pastorello</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">NSRCA</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 18, 2004
2:38 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Excelleron ST'd</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here's the thread on RCU with my latest
efforts. Have the ST2300 installed, broken in, and it is
wonderful!! Can't wait to fly her. It all fit as if it was
meant to be there!!! Obviously, this is truly outstanding power
for this airframe.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A
href="http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2341036/anchors_2445489/mpage_5/key_/anchor/tm.htm#2445489">http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2341036/anchors_2445489/mpage_5/key_/anchor/tm.htm#2445489</A></FONT></DIV><FONT
face=Arial size=2>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR>NSRCA 199 AMA 46373<BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net/">www.rcaerobats.net</A></DIV>
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