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<DIV><SPAN class=081411321-20122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Ah,
Winter-time flying, the clear air, the extra performance,
the clink-clink of frozen ... extremities hitting the
ground.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=081411321-20122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Yes, I
have snow shovelled the runway. I was younger, then.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=081411321-20122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ron Van
Putte<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 20, 2004 4:03 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Excelleron
ST'd<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><!-- Converted from text/enriched format --><BR><BR>
<DIV>On Dec 20, 2004, at 2:50 PM, Ed Miller wrote: </DIV><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>Hmm, Dean, will you be out in the snow and cold
today flight testing ??? VBG, OK it's cold as you know what here in Tn too
!!!</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL></DIV>
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<DIV>Stay inside. It's even cold down here in Florida. I almost froze
my.....er..... extremities off this morning. </DIV><BR>
<DIV>Ron Van Putte </DIV><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>----- Original Message -----</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><B>From:</B> <FONT color=#0000ee>Dean Pappas</FONT>
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=Arial>To:</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> <FONT
color=#0000ee>discussion@nsrca.org</FONT> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=Arial>Sent:</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> Monday, December
20, 2004 3:39 PM</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=Arial>Subject:</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> RE: Excelleron
ST'd</FONT> </DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SMALL>Funny you should mention
that, Randy ...</SMALL></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SMALL>I am in the process of
flight trimming the Excelleron for a review in Model Aviation. The
whole goal of the review is to put together a cost-effective and
non-intimidating package, to allow a Sport flyer to 1) feel what a
groovy, well set-up airplane feels like; and 2) have a competitive
mount for the first couple of seasons of Pattern practice and or
competition. I am presently trimming the plane, and for the purposes of the
review, that amounts to a baby course in trimming. The kit includes a soft
mount, which the instructions warn may not be sufficient for a 120
four-stroke, but looked perfectly adequate for a 120 two-stroke, to me. As
it turns out, it works great with a Magnum 120 two-stroke. Right now, I am
working with the Magnum factory to get the engine just right: the carb
was originally sized for higher RPM, and the fuel draw was not right.
The factory have been incredibly cooperative, and if the engine
with revised carb runs like it does with the OS7M (yes the OS FSR 60
carb) then we have a $150 solution that allowed me to fly the FAI
schedules with plenty of horsepower, just yesterday.</SMALL></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SMALL>A good running 120
two-stroke is a great solution for the Excelleron, turning a 15-10 APC, in
the mid eights, with the stock muffler. Short of convincing a newbie to
put the right glow-plug in the engine, we can eliminate the engine related
learning curve. Mine is about 8-3/4 lbs. Oh yeah, all this on 10% fuel. I'm
sure that a Tiger 23 would be a good choice, too. The 31 ounce Magnum did
not make the plane too nose-heavy.</SMALL></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><SMALL>Later,</SMALL></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SMALL>-----Original Message-----</SMALL> </DIV>
<DIV><B><SMALL>From:</SMALL></B><SMALL> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>randy10926@comcast.net</SMALL> </DIV>
<DIV><B><SMALL>Sent:</SMALL></B><SMALL> Monday, December 20, 2004 12:38
PM</SMALL> </DIV>
<DIV><B><SMALL>To:</SMALL></B><SMALL> discussion@nsrca.org</SMALL> </DIV>
<DIV><B><SMALL>Subject:</SMALL></B><SMALL> RE: Excelleron ST'd</SMALL>
</DIV><BR>
<DIV>I looked at the Jett .90, 1.00 and 1.20. They look real nice; but
seem somewhat pricey. Maybe for my next one. As I will be flying
my Excelleron90 at pattern primers, I am trying to go lower cost
options. Ordered a Tiger Shark 120 which I plan on using with the
stock muffler. Should be low enough cost that the average flyer could
afford to try pattern. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Randy </DIV>
<DIV>-------------- Original message -------------- </DIV>
<DIV></DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SMALL>How about a Jett or Nelson
.90? I am really impressed with the Jett but have never seen one. The web
site description is magnificent.</SMALL></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SMALL>Rich</SMALL></FONT></FONT>
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SMALL>-----Original Message-----</SMALL> </DIV>
<DIV><B><SMALL>From:</SMALL></B><SMALL> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Randy</SMALL>
</DIV>
<DIV><B><SMALL>Sent:</SMALL></B><SMALL> Sunday, December 19, 2004 12:23
PM</SMALL> </DIV>
<DIV><B><SMALL>To:</SMALL></B><SMALL> discussion@nsrca.org</SMALL> </DIV>
<DIV><B><SMALL>Subject:</SMALL></B><SMALL> Re: Excelleron ST'd</SMALL>
</DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>Any more about the ST2300. Looked at RC
Universe, but how does it fly? Any problems with the
CG.</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>My OS91FX is back to a stock carb but have gone
with the OS update for the rear needle valve assembly. It is the rear
needle vavle assembly for the 65LA. Mounted it on the fire wall.
Put the Utlra thrust muffle on it. Seems to have picked at lot of
RPMs. You open the needle valve a whole turn when changing from the
stock to the ultra thurst muffler. Only test runs on the apartment
patio and man it is really LOUD. May be too load to use in
pattern.</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>Anyway, thinking of a belated Christmas gift to
myself. So what would be better on an Excelleron90 - Tiger Shark
120, Magnum 120AR, thunder tiger 120, Webra 120, or Super Tigre
2300?</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>Randy</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>----- Original Message -----</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><B>From:</B> <FONT color=#0000ee>Bob Pastorello</FONT>
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=Arial>To:</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> <FONT
color=#0000ee>NSRCA</FONT> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=Arial>Sent:</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> Saturday,
December 18, 2004 2:38 PM</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=Arial>Subject:</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> Excelleron
ST'd</FONT> </DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>Here's the thread on RCU with my latest
efforts. Have the ST2300 installed, broken in, and it is
wonderful!! Can't wait to fly her. It all fit as if it was meant
to be there!!! Obviously, this is truly outstanding power for this
airframe.</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ee><SMALL>http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2341036/anchors_2445489/mpage_5/key_/anchor/tm.htm#2445489</SMALL></FONT></FONT>
</DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>Bob Pastorello</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL>NSRCA 199 AMA 46373</SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ee><SMALL>rcaerobob@cox.net</SMALL></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ee><SMALL>www.rcaerobats.net</SMALL></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SMALL></SMALL></FONT> </DIV>
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