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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What I was trying to say is that there
must be a very definitive break in pitch must be noticeable to guarantee a good
score. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Certain judges were concentrating
more on the break than I think they were the entire maneuver. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I understand that the aircraft does not have to
have zero lift to stall.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Once again we
come back to what is a snap and what is not. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I don’t know how, but we will always have
these discussions as long we have varying opinions of what is a snap and what
is not. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>It is one of those maneuvers
that is very commonly scored a 9, 9 ½, and a 0. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>The question is now figuring out which scores
are right and which ones are wrong and how to get rid of the gap between the
judges and to help the pilots to know exactly what everyone is looking for.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dean Pappas<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 29, 2004
10:22 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> discussion@nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Displacement during
snap rolls (was Why is it so quiet?)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Hi Karl,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>You already know the answer to that! Rapid
application of many "G"s causing the stall speed to rise.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Of course, first you have to make lift to
stall, which meand that you are starting to leave that perfect vertical line.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Happy New Year</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dean
Pappas <br>
Sr. Design Engineer <br>
Kodeos Communications <br>
111 Corporate Blvd. <br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">South Plainfield</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">N.J.</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">07080</st1:PostalCode></st1:place>
<br>
(908) 222-7817 phone <br>
(908) 222-2392 fax <br>
d.pappas@kodeos.com <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Karl G. Mueller<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 29, 2004
10:18 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> discussion@nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Displacement during
snap rolls (was Why is it so quiet?)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>All,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>I have a question on the aircraft to be in a "stalled condition
during a snap roll":</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>How do you get the airplane into a stalled condition on a vertical
downline snap?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Karl G. Mueller<br>
<a href="mailto:kgamueller@rogers.com">kgamueller@rogers.com</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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