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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Doug:<BR><BR>Yes, it was an "L", your
right... Yep, two-seater and even at that I am tall enough that I had to
hunch over a little to close the canopy! I was fun however!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL
32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=seefo@san.rr.com href="mailto:seefo@san.rr.com">Doug Cronkhite</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:30
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Displacement during snap
rolls (was Why is it so quiet?)</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=199582600-30122004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>That's because you're actually stalled. Most people think
a snap roll is a high G maneuver, but when the wing stalls, there can be no G
other than 1 except for the rotational component. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=199582600-30122004>I
remember awhile ago people on this list were discussing the inverted avalanche
and how people were going to break wings. If they break a wing on this
maneuver, it's because they never stalled. Not exactly the nicest indicator
but it is one none the less. A properly flown snap puts much more torsional
stress on the fuselage than the wing well ever experience.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=199582600-30122004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=199582600-30122004>Also.. weren't you uncomfortable sitting on Steve's
lap in the 300S? :-P Hehehe.. I think you meant
300L..</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=199582600-30122004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=199582600-30122004>-Doug</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=199582600-30122004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>tony@radiosouthrc.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:17
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Displacement
during snap rolls (was Why is it so quiet?)<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bob:<BR><BR>Speaking of being in a full-scale
airplane, I was in an Extra 330S with Steve Rojecki, and we did several
snaps. I was VERY surprised to find that the snap was pretty
smooth.... not at all what I was expecting! Yes, my head moved
around a bit, but I was not thrown around the cockpit like I thought I would
be. I am sure that the way we entered it had a lot to do with
it!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL
32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=bob@toprudder.com href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">Bob
Richards</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 29, 2004
2:21 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Displacement during snap
rolls (was Why is it so quiet?)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM>Dean Pappas <<A
href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com">d.pappas@kodeos.com</A>></EM></STRONG>
wrote:
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<DIV><SPAN class=195025717-29122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Yes, and some small forgiveness needs to be established. Say,
half a wingspan?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>Similar to the (should I say it) "Stall Turn", where a 1 wing
displacement up/down is ok. It is possible for the plane to travel up/down
on exactly the same line, but there are no downgrades if it moves
laterally by one wingspan.</DIV>
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<DIV>Smoothness and gracefulness have been mentioned a few times in this
thread. Somehow, I don't believe there is anything smooth and graceful
about a snap roll. :-) Have you ever been in a real plane that has done a
snap roll? I have. :-0</DIV>
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<DIV>As I have said many times, the real heroes in this hobby are the
cockpit dummys. No matter what kind of crap we put them through, they
continue to hold a straight face. They won't even close their eyes before
impact!!!</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>