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Hey Ed,
<BR>You oughtta see Andrew do that maneuver. He does that particular maneuver
better than anybody in existance, and ya I mean anybody!
<BR>If you get back on the power just as the snap commences(instead of
waiting for snap completion) then the exit line can be made congruent with
the arc of the loop and it can be made to look pretty nice, inspite of
the fact that one of last years TOP finishers maintained that "there is
no way you're going to do a snap at the bottom of a loop and maintain the
arc". I would lay odds that this same individual is currently doing
this maneuver without breaking the arc.
<BR>Thinking and practice will always win out.
<BR>G.
<P>Ed Miller wrote:
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<FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>I
agree with RVP. Case in point, the new Masters schedule, I find it hard
to believe the avalanche with the positive snap at the bottom will ever
look good. It also is a power maneuver, again placing emphasis on low weight
and as much power as you can possibly muster. It's neither smooth or graceful,
in fact it reminds me of a Cap 21 maneuver when too much elevator is used
at low speed : )</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Ed M.</FONT></FONT>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A HREF="mailto:vanputte@cox.net" title="vanputte@cox.net">Ron Van Putte</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A HREF="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org" title="discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 02, 2005 11:21
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Sequence Poll Results</DIV>
<P>On Jan 2, 2005, at 9:58 AM, Ron Lockhart wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>For the 41%
voting to Not have the progression of AMA classes be designed to prepare
for F3A,<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>what changes would you
like to see in those classes?<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Feel free to respond
on or off list.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>I'll bet that many of the people who voted NO on having the progression
of AMA classes designed to prepare for F3A were saying, "I don't think
the construction of the progression of maneuver schedules should be dictated
by a maneuver schedule we have no control over." I, for one, feel that
way. I feel that the Master class, the terminus of the AMA maneuver schedule
sequence, should reflect what members of NSRCA want. We can't affect what
FAI does to the F3A maneuver schedule. If we tailor the Master class maneuver
schedule to what is in the F3A maneuver schedule, we will be tinkering
with it continuously and changes to the Master class maneuver will often
dictate changes to the maneuver schedules in the other classes. I believe
<U>we</U> should decide what <U>we</U> want to do and do it.
<P>Ron Van Putte
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<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger><?/x-tad-bigger><B><?x-tad-bigger>From:<?/x-tad-bigger></B><?x-tad-bigger>
<?/x-tad-bigger><?color><?param 0000,0000,EEEE><?x-tad-bigger>Bob
Pastorello<?/x-tad-bigger><?/color><?x-tad-bigger> <?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily>
<BR><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>To:<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily></B><?fontfamily><?param
Arial><?x-tad-bigger> <?/x-tad-bigger><?color><?param 0000,0000,EEEE><?x-tad-bigger>NSRCA<?/x-tad-bigger><?/color><?x-tad-bigger>
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<BR><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>Sent:<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily></B><?fontfamily><?param
Arial><?x-tad-bigger> Saturday, January 01, 2005 8:44 PM<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily>
<BR><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?x-tad-bigger>Subject:<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily></B><?fontfamily><?param
Arial><?x-tad-bigger> Sequence Poll Results<?/x-tad-bigger><?/fontfamily>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>An "unofficial" poll of
the NSRCA mail list members (and anyone else who may read RCU's Pattern
Forum) was approved by Tony Stillman, created and posted by Ed Hartley
on the NSRCA website. Ed and I did the tabulations independently
and arrived at the information you see below.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>This information is the
tabulation of all of your responses to this question:<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller> <B><?color><?param
0000,0000,FFFF>"Should the progression of classes within AMA precision
aerobatics be designed to prepare a person for the FAI class?"<?/color></B><?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<BR>
<P><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>YES<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></B>
<BR>
<P><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>NO<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></B>
<BR>
<P><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>TOTAL-Class<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></B>
<BR>
<P><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>% of Total<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></B>
<BR>
<P><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>% Y of Total<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></B>
<BR>
<P><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>% N of Total<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></B>
<BR>
<P><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Sportsman<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></B>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>9<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>3<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>12<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>9%<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>12%<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>6%<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Intermediate<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></B>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>21<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>8<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>29<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>22%<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>28%<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>15%<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Advanced<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></B>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>10<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>14<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>24<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>19%<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>13%<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>26%<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Masters<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></B>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>23<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>20<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>43<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>33%<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>30%<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>38%<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>FAI<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></B>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>13<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>8<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>21<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>16%<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>17%<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>15%<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>TOTAL Polls<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></B>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>76<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>53<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>129<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>100%<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>100%<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR>
<P><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>% of Total<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></B>
<BR>
<P><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?color><?param FFFF,FFFF,0000><?smaller>59%<?/smaller><?/color><?/fontfamily></B>
<BR>
<P><B><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?color><?param FFFF,FFFF,9999><?smaller>41%<?/smaller><?/color><?/fontfamily></B>
<P>
<BR>
<BR>
<P><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller> <?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Five votes were disallowed,
as they either did not contain a name, competition class, or AMA number.
All three elements were required for a vote to be tallied. There
were three votes where a person selected two classes for their competition.
In those situations, I used the lower class, so that the vote could be
consistently counted across all classes represented in those choices (there
was one each in Intermediate, Advanced, and Masters).<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller> The
source information has been saved by Ed (and I) for archival needs, should
any arise.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller> <?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>It is my hope, since
I was the original "questioner", that this information may serve to foster
discussion and gain insights about our preferences and serve also to springboard
future similar polls and member involvement activity in this Rule Change
year.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller> We
wish the President-elect to consider this information, and discuss with
the Board possible future activities.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller> <?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Thanks to all of you
for your participation and insight!!!<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller> <?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Bob Pastorello<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>NSRCA 199 AMA 46373<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?color><?param 0000,0000,EEEE><?smaller>rcaerobob@cox.net<?/smaller><?/color><?/fontfamily>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?color><?param 0000,0000,EEEE><?smaller>www.rcaerobats.net<?/smaller><?/color><?/fontfamily>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller> <?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?bigger>Ed Hartley<?/bigger><?/fontfamily>
<BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?color><?param 0000,0000,EEEE><?bigger>roho2@rcpattern.com<?/bigger><?/color><?/fontfamily>
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