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<DIV><SPAN class=747214917-03012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Mr. Van Putte has hit the nail right on the head for me. F3A
and its top fliers are a real attraction to pattern for me as they
are truly magnificent fliers of world reknowned status.
But, tailoring the sequences to the wants of most pattern fliers and
not necessarily to prep for F3A may do its own bit to keep
pattern healthy. I mean no discredit to F3A , or its
value, nor to those who have worked to design the
AMA sequences.... I'm just glad to see the input to give more
options or ideas to future sequences. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747214917-03012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747214917-03012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Chris
White</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=747214917-03012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Advanced</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ron Van
Putte<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 02, 2005 10:21 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Sequence Poll
Results<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR><BR>
<P>On Jan 2, 2005, at 9:58 AM, Ron Lockhart wrote: </P><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>For the 41% voting to Not have the
progression of AMA classes be designed to prepare for F3A,</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>what changes would you like to see in those
classes?</FONT> </P>
<P> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Feel free to respond on or off list.</FONT>
</P><BR>
<P>I'll bet that many of the people who voted NO on having the progression of
AMA classes designed to prepare for F3A were saying, "I don't think the
construction of the progression of maneuver schedules should be dictated by a
maneuver schedule we have no control over." I, for one, feel that way. I feel
that the Master class, the terminus of the AMA maneuver schedule sequence,
should reflect what members of NSRCA want. We can't affect what FAI does to
the F3A maneuver schedule. If we tailor the Master class maneuver schedule to
what is in the F3A maneuver schedule, we will be tinkering with it
continuously and changes to the Master class maneuver will often dictate
changes to the maneuver schedules in the other classes. I believe<U> we</U>
should decide what<U> we</U> want to do and do it. </P><BR>
<P>Ron Van Putte </P>
<P></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial>----- Original Message -----</FONT> </P>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial>From:</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> </FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ee>Bob Pastorello</FONT><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </P>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial>To:</FONT></B><B></B><FONT face=Arial> </FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ee>NSRCA</FONT><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </P>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial>Sent:</FONT></B><B></B><FONT face=Arial> Saturday,
January 01, 2005 8:44 PM</FONT> </P>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial>Subject:</FONT></B><B></B><FONT face=Arial> Sequence
Poll Results</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>An "unofficial" poll of the NSRCA mail list members
(and anyone else who may read RCU's Pattern Forum) was approved by Tony
Stillman, created and posted by Ed Hartley on the NSRCA website. Ed and
I did the tabulations independently and arrived at the information you see
below.</FONT> </P>
<P> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>This information is the tabulation of all of your
responses to this question:</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT><B> <FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>"Should the progression of classes within AMA precision
aerobatics be designed to prepare a person for the FAI
class?"</FONT></B><B></B> </P>
<P> </P><BR><BR>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2>YES</FONT></B><B></B><B></B> </P><BR><BR>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2>NO</FONT></B><B></B><B></B> </P><BR><BR>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2>TOTAL-Class</FONT></B><B></B><B></B>
</P><BR><BR>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2>% of Total</FONT></B><B></B><B></B> </P><BR><BR>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2>% Y of Total</FONT></B><B></B><B></B>
</P><BR><BR>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2>% N of Total</FONT></B><B></B><B></B>
</P><BR><BR>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sportsman</FONT></B><B></B><B></B> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>9</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>3</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>12</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>9%</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>12%</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>6%</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2>Intermediate</FONT></B><B></B><B></B>
</P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>21</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>8</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>29</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>22%</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>28%</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>15%</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2>Advanced</FONT></B><B></B><B></B> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>10</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>14</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>24</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>19%</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>13%</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>26%</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2>Masters</FONT></B><B></B><B></B> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>23</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>20</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>43</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>33%</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>30%</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>38%</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2>FAI</FONT></B><B></B><B></B> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>13</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>8</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>21</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>16%</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>17%</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>15%</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2>TOTAL Polls</FONT></B><B></B><B></B>
</P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>76</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>53</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>129</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>100%</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>100%</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2>% of Total</FONT></B><B></B><B></B> </P><BR><BR>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial color=#ffff00 size=2>59%</FONT></B><B></B><B></B>
</P><BR><BR>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial color=#ffff99 size=2>41%</FONT></B><B></B><B></B>
</P><BR>
<P> </P><BR><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Five votes were disallowed, as they either did not
contain a name, competition class, or AMA number. All three elements
were required for a vote to be tallied. There were three votes where a
person selected two classes for their competition. In those situations,
I used the lower class, so that the vote could be consistently counted across
all classes represented in those choices (there was one each in Intermediate,
Advanced, and Masters).</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2> The source information has been
saved by Ed (and I) for archival needs, should any arise.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>It is my hope, since I was the original
"questioner", that this information may serve to foster discussion and gain
insights about our preferences and serve also to springboard future similar
polls and member involvement activity in this Rule Change year.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2> We wish the President-elect to
consider this information, and discuss with the Board possible future
activities.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks to all of you for your participation and
insight!!!</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bob Pastorello</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>NSRCA 199 AMA 46373</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ee size=2>rcaerobob@cox.net</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ee size=2>www.rcaerobats.net</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=4>Ed Hartley</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ee size=4>roho2@rcpattern.com</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </P>
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