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<DIV><SPAN class=471572504-04012005>Hey you guys in the US...your NBA
altercation made world news coverage down here.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=471572504-04012005>I can see the news clips
already.......'Major brawl at toy aeroplane competition'....hahahahahahaha
GO ON Jason....do it...the news would be worth watching then</SPAN><SPAN
class=471572504-04012005>!</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=471572504-04012005>Tom </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=471572504-04012005></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf
Of </B>Mike Hester<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 4 January 2005 2:40 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Sequence Poll
Results<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>=)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>-Mike</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jasonshulman@cox.net href="mailto:jasonshulman@cox.net">Jason</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 03, 2005 10:25
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Sequence Poll Results</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=720352303-04012005><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>I did make the
jump...but I got my tail handed to me for a few years before settling down and
moving up....Maybe after this year I'll fly Advanced again after the Nats and
get my Nats trophy from Advanced I just missed; providing some of these
Advanced pilots don't beat me up first (flying).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=720352303-04012005><FONT color=#0000ff
size=3>Jason</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Rcmaster199@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 03, 2005
8:11 PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Fwd: Sequence
Poll Results<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT id=role_document face=Arial
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<DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 1/3/2005 10:10:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Rcmaster199 writes:</DIV>
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<DIV>It seems to me that Earl is right. It's a moot point</DIV>
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<DIV>In the US (and many other countries) we are lucky to have
pattern competition in ever increasing levels of difficulty. When a
competitor has reached some level of profficiency and feels compelled to
compete for the World stage, he or she only needs to do it. We have no
other requiremnts imposed. The question in my mind is, are prep levels
really necessary? If one is driven enough and focused enough, No!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There are countries out there that do not have such progression in
skill requirements. Often it's only a handful of pilots available
and it's either F3A or nothing. Well, just fun flying I suppose.
Point is they don't need anything special to compete in F3A--just desire.
They do it to the best of their ability. And they have a bunch of
fun doing it.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>It occasionally is that way here also and I would bet that
those that want to compete at the F3A level will, regardless of earlier
prep. It helps, obviously. But what really helps is the exposure to
competition. And in that regard, AMA classes 401-404 serve the function of
prep for F3A just fine. But each class stands on its own. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Those that want to go to F3A after any of these classes, are free to
do so. If memory serves, Jason Shulman moved to F3A comp after kicking
everybody's butt in ADVANCED. No Expert, Expert TA or Masters.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Is F3A the TOP class, or "Destination" class or whatever you want to
call it? Does it really matter?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>MattK</DIV>
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<P>Earl Haury wrote:
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<FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>I think this "top class" issue is
of little value and, at best, semantics. One could argue that, as AMA
pattern class 404 is Masters and AMA pattern 406 is F3A, F3A is at the
top of AMA progression.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT
size=-1>Mark's point that we have as much influence in F3A as any
other country is not only valid - many of the F3A "innovations" have
come from USA reps to the FAI CIAM F3A Subcommittee. I also assure you
that a sequence provided by "us" will not only receive as much
consideration as any other, but be quite
welcome.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Our pattern
community worldwide is small, why on earth would we want to be only a
subset? BTW - does anyone have a feel for the total number of pattern
competitors worldwide, I suspect that the US may be in the minority.
Sure, we should and do have preparatory classes. These may become
resident classes for folks prevented from moving forward by any number
of limiting factors, but that's a fact of life - not reason to
tailor these classes to that end.</FONT></FONT> <FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=-1>One of the strongest attractions for model
aviation is diversity. Likewise, excess diversity is a weakness of
model aviation. We too quickly "invent" new disciplines to accommodate
each and every interest with the effect of diluting our core groups.
If one considers most sports, many folks participate at playground,
high school, college, and pro levels with fewer at each level as the
requirements take a toll. But the "top" level is clearly recognized
and emulated, there may be concessions to detail, difficulty,
equipment at the early levels - but the top level clearly is the
goal.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>I find it sad
that some consider that the NSRCA</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT
size=-1>should ignore F3A, rather the NSRCA should drive the US
interests in F3A. The NSRCA was founded by the top F3A competitors of
the time and there was no expectation that it was exclusive of F3A,
unfortunately they didn't recognize the need to spell that out in the
charter. Pattern is our game, anything that interests folks in pattern
competition is very good, discussion of pattern details is good,
F3A is the epitome of our game, but I find it hard to criticize
anything related to the enjoyment of pattern.</FONT></FONT> <FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Earl</FONT></FONT> ----- Original
Message -----
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">Bob Pastorello</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=mailto:discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 02, 2005
11:00 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Sequence Poll
Results</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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