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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There is a company producing full molded - painted
in the mold composite pattern ships that are very high quality/workmanship for
$1500 reasonably priced. they have quick 6 week turnaround and excellent
customer service - I bought an Abbra, for pics and info go to rcuniverse/pattern
then Abbra. I am sure these guys will pick up this "high end"
business.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=edbon85@charter.net href="mailto:edbon85@charter.net">Ed Miller</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 06, 2005 3:10
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: PL Products</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It seems we had a lot less of these type of
problems when there were many American based kit designers and manufacturers.
As we drove them out of business with our fruitless chase for the
plane of the week, we've become dependent on unreliable overseas suppliers.
Hope everyone can scratch build........</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed M.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=derekkoopowitz@earthlink.net
href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@earthlink.net">Derek Koopowitz</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 06, 2005 12:39
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: PL Products</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=699173605-06012005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Well, the biggest question in my mind... is will he
honor replacing the damaged Partner fuselage that arrived at my doorstep in
June of last year? After promising to replace it in August - I'm still
waiting for it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=699173605-06012005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=699173605-06012005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>BTW, I've kept this out of this forum but he blamed ME
for it arriving damaged at my doorstep. Hmmm...
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A
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[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Russell
Honea<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:35 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: PL Products<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000>Here is an e-mail reply that Patrick
sent to me today in reply to a question I posed to him about the closing of
PL. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000></FONT><FONT face=Arial
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hello Mr Russell
Honea</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Sadden of this problem yes the
company(society) pl prod and close but we are going to honor all the
commands(orders) gift(donation) pl prod received a deposit by a
buyer(rescuer) and I would be as engineering manager to reassure your
customers we are going soon to be able to take your order <BR>Thank you to
still take one can of patience sums us in plain <STRONG><FONT
color=#ff0000>reorganization</FONT></STRONG> to worry you not we are going
soon to be able to answer has your demand you can count on us for 2005 with
a great novelty which is going to upset world you can inform about it your
forum<BR>Has very soon </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Patrick
Lemonnier<BR></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=patterndude@comcast.net
href="mailto:patterndude@comcast.net">Lance Van Nostrand</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 05, 2005
10:41 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: PL Products</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Patrick is some interesting character.
Thought I was re-reading Les Miserables for a minute there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=derekkoopowitz@earthlink.net
href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@earthlink.net">Derek Koopowitz</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 05, 2005
10:18 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: PL Products</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=232151704-06012005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Yes - this is true. I got this message off a
French discussion forum... I've run it through a translator so don't
laugh too hard:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<P>DEVELOPED FOR the RAGOTEURS IN ANY KIND "makes of them the four or
five slobbery over-devouts of the forum" because the other members are
unaware of them. With their place I will have shame to have had such
remarks to know that it is only about anonymous letter since the latter
not courage to employ their own name and sign under pseudo. But I make a
point of announcing to them all the same that in the event of deposit of
complaint for slandering, the qualified services would have the
possibility of identifying them without difficulty. For a few weeks, I
have followed time to other the forums model makers which comment on the
event and I think that it is time for me to intervene and to give the
things to the point. First of all PL PROD was not put in bankruptcy but
it is of my own initiative that I filed for bankruptcy, which in France
is an act of management and not a personal bankruptcy. Much among you
will understand that it is humanly difficult to announce this kind of
decision by Internet, namely that moreover it was impossible to to me to
do it day when liquidation was marked with the court since the
discontinuance of business was imminent whereas I hoped to have an
agreement of the judge to be able to finish my deliveries in the course
of customers whose installment had been boxed. The reasons of my
decision are not like it was known as in the forum a lack of order quite
to the contrary. But with my problems of health which last since more
than one year, I have no possibility to work like before and I had to
engage of the personnel to face my many orders. Unfortunately, the same
problems which were the cause of the legal rectification in 2000, again
arose; employees not qualified to form, wages and exuberant social
contributions compared to work provided, various prud' man for certain
employees who believed any knowledge... and obviously in France the
employer is always wrong, all this generates enormous court expenses.
Like he was said by a member of the forum, it is true that a great
number of SME or SME are only delocalized abroad and to be to relieve of
the social contributions which are much too heavy in France. Moreover
why not consider such a solution for the future!!!!! I knew well that
the vultures would be with the mounting and I announce to crafty one who
think, I quote them: "to be made gold testicles" and which in their
dream reserve parts, or "foreigners with their full pocket" or those
still which think that the company is not worth anything, and well for
some it has a very great value and for all those which would like to
come to make deals, they will may find it beneficial to have very solid
finances because they will have vis-a-vis them somebody which has them
to him and moreover one hard motivation like a "rock". Personally my
only wish currently is to make return a maximum of money at the time of
the sale so that the syndic can deaden the debts to the maximum. As
opposed to what Mr. PALERMO announced following his visit in my
residence where is located the company, the buildings are not emptied,
all stock and the machines remained in place as at the day of the
pronunciation of liquidation. And will remain it under my personal guard
without the syndic did not consider it useful to put at it sealed or to
remove the material. What shows a whole confidence on behalf of the
syndic towards me. I also expected to see some unloading some ones, to
see whether there were nothing with grappiller and indeed I saw some
coming some, of which Mr. PALERMO and his son. I quote them bus me I do
not hide like them behind pseudo on the forums to hold to with it of the
defamatory and erroneous remarks. Such as: To say that my wife
supposedly said to him that it refused to return her cheque to him. In
connection with this given cheque on November 6 and to box that on
December 1, I consider that there was not of order since it is the
payment of the installment which confirms the latter. However not being
able to be taken into account since the company did not exist any more
at the date of November 25 this one became by this null and void fact.
This cheque will be sent dice tomorrow by the post office in recommended
A.R with a letter which will accompany it I join copy to you. Frankly,
what I will have make of a cheque of 330 € to the order of PL PROD!!!! I
am not a swindler, far from there!!! I also advise to him to consult the
statutes of the company, it will note that my concubine "Simone" does
not have any share nor bond in company PL PROD. It affirms to be badly
received, those which know us well, know our direction of the reception.
However well on not having let it return in the buildings, in order to
appease his curiosity and I think after having read his remarks on this
forum, I suspect it of having wanted to be useful itself in stock since
it felt swindled whereas its cheque of installment was never cashed and
that it will be it never. I would like just to announce to the son of
Mr. Palermo that if he wrote under the dictation of his father, he
should learn how to judge by itself of the reality of the facts and that
if he wrote his own initiative which he is still quite young person and
inexperienced to hold such remarks because nobody knows what the future
can hold to him instead of unnecessarily wasting its time in the forums
that he should take of the French courses. I also prevent, all those
which are to adapt the photographs of Clara MORGANE on my site PL PROD
without authorization, that these photographs are the property of
Patrick LEMONNIER personally, that they cost me 8000 € for the day of
installation with authorization of exclusive diffusion on stores where
they appeared and on my site. However with all these, I join the article
of the penal code to you which relates to them: ATTACK A LIFE PRIVEE BY
RECORDING AND DIFFUSION OF The IMAGE Of A PERSON WITHOUT HER ASSENT
ARTICLE 226-1 AND 226-2 OF CODE PENAL. I highly invite them to withdraw
these photographs of their site which I already recorded as proof if I
do not have excuses into public on this forum like that was made to
dirty me. If not Clara MORGANE will be made a pleasure of requiring
significant damages of them. Act quickly because I am not patient kind
in this field. In addition my personal businesses look at me and I never
neither was windy myself about it nor hidden and these last do not have
absolutely anything to see with the company PL PROD which never did not
produce or diffused a film in this field. It is not a "SCOOP" to speak
about it! That each one does its housework in front of its door before
dealing with that of the neighbor. PL PROD was always more one passion
that a profitability (I am not enrichiesur the account of the company
quite to the contrary, I invested myself as much physically than
financially) I think of having done what is necessary to advance the
world of the model amongst other things reduces the FÁ and the F3M
including the electric innovation in FÁ. It should be known that to make
model reduced for the high level competition is a very delicate trade,
very difficult and fragile especially if one wants to make "HAUTE
COUTURE". My great satisfaction currently is of knowing that a great
number of my models are copied throughout the whole World and by many
international companies. Whereas a few years ago I took that for an
affront, now I am proud. With my opinion the progression will be much
slower if there are no more my models to copy. Will know that Patrick
LEMONNIER did not say his last word, that one should not sell the skin
of the bear before having it to kill and I am still quite alive and the
head full with ideas for the future. I thank the regulator for this
forum which knew after a fashion to make reign the order about the
insults towards Clara MORGANE and I think that that should not have been
easy. I thank, also, those which took my defense on this forum as those
which remained quiet vis-a-vis these commérages thus showing the
contempt that they bring vis-a-vis such remarks and I know that you are
numerous. I think of having been honest and courteous and I find damage
to be obliged to justify itself on a forum in this way there and I hope
that in the future those which will have some things to say to me or to
wonder will do it directly on my personal e-mail
patricklemonnier@wanadoo.fr I make all reserves on the action pursuant
which I will take to these slanderings. I clearly hope to have been.
Patrick LEMONNIER</P></FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Verne
Koester<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:13
PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA<BR><B>Subject:</B> PL
Products<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I just heard a rumour that PL Products has gone
out of business. Anybody heard anything?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Verne
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