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Concubine? <br>
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Derek Koopowitz wrote:<br>
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<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span class="887261505-06012005"><font
color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">But think of the "tail" he
got... </font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span class="887261505-06012005"></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span class="887261505-06012005"></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span class="887261505-06012005"><font
color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">err.... did I say that out loud?</font></span></div>
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<hr tabindex="-1"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Doug Cronkhite<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: PL Products<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">If he spent
8000 euro on those pictures than him going out of business was only a
matter of time. Not exactly smart business.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">-Doug<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">From:</span></font></b><font
face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Koenig, Tom<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday,
January 05, 2005 8:48 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: PL
Products</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Comic Sans MS" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS';">I
guess it was inevitable...too bad in some way.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Comic Sans MS" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS';">Right
now......Boy am I glad I can design and build. In 'Lo tech' good 'ol
balsa and foam <G></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Comic Sans MS" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS';">Tom</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</a>]<b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Lance Van Nostrand<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 6
January 2005 3:41 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: PL
Products</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Patrick is some
interesting character. Thought I was re-reading Les Miserables for a
minute there.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">--Lance</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">From:</span></font></b><font
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> <a
title="derekkoopowitz@earthlink.net"
href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@earthlink.net">Derek Koopowitz</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">To:</span></font></b><font
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> <a
title="discussion@nsrca.org" href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Sent:</span></font></b><font
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> Wednesday, January 05,
2005 10:18 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Subject:</span></font></b><font
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> RE: PL Products<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: blue; font-family: Arial;">Yes - this
is true. I got this message off a French discussion forum... I've run
it through a translator so don't laugh too hard:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">DEVELOPED FOR the RAGOTEURS IN ANY KIND
"makes of them the four or five slobbery over-devouts of the forum"
because the other members are unaware of them. With their place I will
have shame to have had such remarks to know that it is only about
anonymous letter since the latter not courage to employ their own name
and sign under pseudo. But I make a point of announcing to them all the
same that in the event of deposit of complaint for slandering, the
qualified services would have the possibility of identifying them
without difficulty. For a few weeks, I have followed time to other the
forums model makers which comment on the event and I think that it is
time for me to intervene and to give the things to the point. First of
all PL PROD was not put in bankruptcy but it is of my own initiative
that I filed for bankruptcy, which in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">France</st1:place></st1:country-region> is an act of
management and not a personal bankruptcy. Much among you will
understand that it is humanly difficult to announce this kind of
decision by Internet, namely that moreover it was impossible to to me
to do it day when liquidation was marked with the court since the
discontinuance of business was imminent whereas I hoped to have an
agreement of the judge to be able to finish my deliveries in the course
of customers whose installment had been boxed. The reasons of my
decision are not like it was known as in the forum a lack of order
quite to the contrary. But with my problems of health which last since
more than one year, I have no possibility to work like before and I had
to engage of the personnel to face my many orders. Unfortunately, the
same problems which were the cause of the legal rectification in 2000,
again arose; employees not qualified to form, wages and exuberant
social contributions compared to work provided, various prud' man for
certain employees who believed any knowledge... and obviously in France
the employer is always wrong, all this generates enormous court
expenses. Like he was said by a member of the forum, it is true that a
great number of SME or SME are only delocalized abroad and to be to
relieve of the social contributions which are much too heavy in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">France</st1:place></st1:country-region>.
Moreover why not consider such a solution for the future!!!!! I knew
well that the vultures would be with the mounting and I announce to
crafty one who think, I quote them: "to be made gold testicles" and
which in their dream reserve parts, or "foreigners with their full
pocket" or those still which think that the company is not worth
anything, and well for some it has a very great value and for all those
which would like to come to make deals, they will may find it
beneficial to have very solid finances because they will have vis-a-vis
them somebody which has them to him and moreover one hard motivation
like a "rock". Personally my only wish currently is to make return a
maximum of money at the time of the sale so that the syndic can deaden
the debts to the maximum. As opposed to what Mr. PALERMO announced
following his visit in my residence where is located the company, the
buildings are not emptied, all stock and the machines remained in place
as at the day of the pronunciation of liquidation. And will remain it
under my personal guard without the syndic did not consider it useful
to put at it sealed or to remove the material. What shows a whole
confidence on behalf of the syndic towards me. I also expected to see
some unloading some ones, to see whether there were nothing with
grappiller and indeed I saw some coming some, of which Mr. PALERMO and
his son. I quote them bus me I do not hide like them behind pseudo on
the forums to hold to with it of the defamatory and erroneous remarks.
Such as: To say that my wife supposedly said to him that it refused to
return her cheque to him. In connection with this given cheque on
November 6 and to box that on December 1, I consider that there was not
of order since it is the payment of the installment which confirms the
latter. However not being able to be taken into account since the
company did not exist any more at the date of November 25 this one
became by this null and void fact. This cheque will be sent dice
tomorrow by the post office in recommended A.R with a letter which will
accompany it I join copy to you. Frankly, what I will have make of a
cheque of 330 € to the order of PL PROD!!!! I am not a swindler, far
from there!!! I also advise to him to consult the statutes of the
company, it will note that my concubine "Simone" does not have any
share nor bond in company PL PROD. It affirms to be badly received,
those which know us well, know our direction of the reception. However
well on not having let it return in the buildings, in order to appease
his curiosity and I think after having read his remarks on this forum,
I suspect it of having wanted to be useful itself in stock since it
felt swindled whereas its cheque of installment was never cashed and
that it will be it never. I would like just to announce to the son of
Mr. Palermo that if he wrote under the dictation of his father, he
should learn how to judge by itself of the reality of the facts and
that if he wrote his own initiative which he is still quite young
person and inexperienced to hold such remarks because nobody knows what
the future can hold to him instead of unnecessarily wasting its time in
the forums that he should take of the French courses. I also prevent,
all those which are to adapt the photographs of Clara MORGANE on my
site PL PROD without authorization, that these photographs are the
property of Patrick LEMONNIER personally, that they cost me 8000 € for
the day of installation with authorization of exclusive diffusion on
stores where they appeared and on my site. However with all these, I
join the article of the penal code to you which relates to them: ATTACK
A LIFE PRIVEE BY RECORDING AND DIFFUSION OF The IMAGE Of A PERSON
WITHOUT HER ASSENT ARTICLE 226-1 AND 226-2 OF CODE PENAL. I highly
invite them to withdraw these photographs of their site which I already
recorded as proof if I do not have excuses into public on this forum
like that was made to dirty me. If not Clara MORGANE will be made a
pleasure of requiring significant damages of them. Act quickly because
I am not patient kind in this field. In addition my personal businesses
look at me and I never neither was windy myself about it nor hidden and
these last do not have absolutely anything to see with the company PL
PROD which never did not produce or diffused a film in this field. It
is not a "SCOOP" to speak about it! That each one does its housework in
front of its door before dealing with that of the neighbor. PL PROD was
always more one passion that a profitability (I am not enrichiesur the
account of the company quite to the contrary, I invested myself as much
physically than financially) I think of having done what is necessary
to advance the world of the model amongst other things reduces the FÁ
and the F3M including the electric innovation in FÁ. It should be known
that to make model reduced for the high level competition is a very
delicate trade, very difficult and fragile especially if one wants to
make "HAUTE COUTURE". My great satisfaction currently is of knowing
that a great number of my models are copied throughout the whole World
and by many international companies. Whereas a few years ago I took
that for an affront, now I am proud. With my opinion the progression
will be much slower if there are no more my models to copy. Will know
that Patrick LEMONNIER did not say his last word, that one should not
sell the skin of the bear before having it to kill and I am still quite
alive and the head full with ideas for the future. I thank the
regulator for this forum which knew after a fashion to make reign the
order about the insults towards Clara MORGANE and I think that that
should not have been easy. I thank, also, those which took my defense
on this forum as those which remained quiet vis-a-vis these commérages
thus showing the contempt that they bring vis-a-vis such remarks and I
know that you are numerous. I think of having been honest and courteous
and I find damage to be obliged to justify itself on a forum in this
way there and I hope that in the future those which will have some
things to say to me or to wonder will do it directly on my personal
e-mail <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:patricklemonnier@wanadoo.fr">patricklemonnier@wanadoo.fr</a> I make all reserves on the action
pursuant which I will take to these slanderings. I clearly hope to have
been. Patrick LEMONNIER<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">From:</span></font></b><font
face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Verne Koester<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday,
January 05, 2005 8:13 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> NSRCA<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> PL Products</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;">I just heard a rumour
that PL Products has gone out of business. Anybody heard anything?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;">Thanks,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;">Verne Koester</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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