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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>concubine,new pattern plane from pl
products.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=bob@toprudder.com href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">Bob Richards</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:27
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: PL Products</DIV>
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<DIV>Or Groucho Marx:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"I like my tuned pipe, but I ....."</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Never mind! :-)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bob R.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Larry Caldwell <<A
href="mailto:4larryc@bscn.com">4larryc@bscn.com</A>></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Sounds
like W.C. Fields tok up pattern! Oops, showing my age...<BR><BR>Larry
Caldwell<BR>Brookland, Arkansas<BR><BR>Keith Hoard wrote:<BR><BR>> What a
great name for a pattern plane. . . . Mike Hester, are you still <BR>>
looking for a name for your new design??<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
I can see it now: “Hey Keith, are you going to bring your CONCUBINE to
<BR>> the contest this weekend??”. . . . (hehehehe)<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Keith L. Hoard<BR>> <BR>> Cordova,
TN<BR>> <BR>> khoard@midsouth.rr.com<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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<BR>> From: discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <BR>> On Behalf Of Del
Rykert<BR>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 8:56 AM<BR>> To:
discussion@nsrca.org<BR>> Subject: Re: PL Products<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> Derek..<BR>> <BR>> Thanks for sharing the direct
material CONCUBINE and all. Hope you <BR>> do get your Partner fuselage
but I'm not taking any bets on it.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
del<BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> <BR>> From:
Derek Koopowitz <MAILTO:DEREKKOOPOWITZ@EARTHLINK.NET><BR>> <BR>> To:
discussion@nsrca.org <MAILTO:DISCUSSION@NSRCA.ORG><BR>> <BR>> Sent:
Thursday, January 06, 2005 12:39 AM<BR>> <BR>> Subject: RE: PL
Products<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Well, the biggest question in my
mind... is will he honor replacing<BR>> the damaged Partner fuselage that
arrived at my doorstep in June of<BR>> last year? After promising to
replace it in August - I'm still<BR>> waiting for it.<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> BTW, I've kept this out of this forum but he blamed ME for
it<BR>> arriving damaged at my doorstep. Hmmm...<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>>
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<BR>> From: discussion-request@nsrca.org<BR>>
<MAILTO:DISCUSSION-REQUEST@NSRCA.ORG><BR>>
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Russell Honea<BR>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:35 PM<BR>> To:
discussion@nsrca.org<BR>> Subject: Re: PL Products<BR>> <BR>>
Guys,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Here is an e-mail reply that
Patrick sent to me today in reply to a<BR>> question I posed to him about
the closing of PL.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
Hello Mr Russell Honea<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Sadden of this
problem yes the company(society) pl prod and close<BR>> but we are going
to honor all the commands(orders) gift(donation) pl<BR>> prod received a
deposit by a buyer(rescuer) and I would be as<BR>> engineering manager to
reassure your customers we are going soon to<BR>> be able to take your
order<BR>> Thank you to still take one can of patience sums us in
plain<BR>> reorganization to worry you not we are going soon to be able
to<BR>> answer has your demand you can count on us for 2005 with a
great<BR>> novelty which is going to upset world you can inform about it
your forum<BR>> Has very soon<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Patrick
Lemonnier<BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> <BR>>
From: Lance Van Nostrand <MAILTO:PATTERNDUDE@COMCAST.NET><BR>> <BR>>
To: discussion@nsrca.org <MAILTO:DISCUSSION@NSRCA.ORG><BR>> <BR>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:41 PM<BR>> <BR>> Subject: Re: PL
Products<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Patrick is some interesting
character. Thought I was re-reading<BR>> Les Miserables for a minute
there.<BR>> <BR>> --Lance<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -----
Original Message -----<BR>> <BR>> From: Derek Koopowitz
<MAILTO:DEREKKOOPOWITZ@EARTHLINK.NET><BR>> <BR>> To:
discussion@nsrca.org <MAILTO:DISCUSSION@NSRCA.ORG><BR>> <BR>> Sent:
Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:18 PM<BR>> <BR>> Subject: RE: PL
Products<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Yes - this is true. I got this
message off a French<BR>> discussion forum... I've run it through a
translator so<BR>> don't laugh too hard:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> DEVELOPED FOR the RAGOTEURS IN ANY KIND "makes of them the<BR>>
four or five slobbery over-devouts of the forum" because the<BR>> other
members are unaware of them. With their place I will<BR>> have shame to
have had such remarks to know that it is only<BR>> about anonymous letter
since the latter not courage to<BR>> employ their own name and sign under
pseudo. But I make a<BR>> point of announcing to them all the same that
in the event<BR>> of deposit of complaint for slandering, the
qualified<BR>> services would have the possibility of identifying
them<BR>> without difficulty. For a few weeks, I have followed time
to<BR>> other the forums model makers which comment on the event
and<BR>> I think that it is time for me to intervene and to give
the<BR>> things to the point. First of all PL PROD was not put in<BR>>
bankruptcy but it is of my own initiative that I filed for<BR>>
bankruptcy, which in France is an act of management and not<BR>> a
personal bankruptcy. Much among you will understand that<BR>> it is
humanly difficult to announce this kind of decision by<BR>> Internet,
namely that moreover it was impossible to to me to<BR>> do it day when
liquidation was marked with the court since<BR>> the discontinuance of
business was imminent whereas I hoped<BR>> to have an agreement of the
judge to be able to finish my<BR>> deliveries in the course of customers
whose installment had<BR>> been boxed. The reasons of my decision are not
like it was<BR>> known as in the forum a lack of order quite to the
contrary.<BR>> But with my problems of health which last since more
than<BR>> one year, I have no possibility to work like before and
I<BR>> had to engage of the personnel to face my many orders.<BR>>
Unfortunately, the same problems which were the cause of the<BR>> legal
rectification in 2000, again arose; employees not<BR>> qualified to form,
wages and exuberant social contributions<BR>> compared to work provided,
various prud' man for certain<BR>> employees who believed any
knowledge... and obviously in<BR>> France the employer is always wrong,
all this generates<BR>> enormous court expenses. Like he was said by a
member of the<BR>> forum, it is true that a great number of SME or SME
are only<BR>> delocalized abroad and to be to relieve of the
social<BR>> contributions which are much too heavy in France.
Moreover<BR>> why not consider such a solution for the future!!!!! I
knew<BR>> well that the vultures would be with the mounting and I<BR>>
announce to crafty one who think, I quote them: "to be made<BR>> gold
testicles" and which in their dream reserve parts, or<BR>> "foreigners
with their full pocket" or those still which<BR>> think that the company
is not worth anything, and well for<BR>> some it has a very great value
and for all those which would<BR>> like to come to make deals, they will
may find it beneficial<BR>> to have very solid finances because they will
have vis-a-vis<BR>> them somebody which has them to him and moreover one
hard<BR>> motivation like a "rock". Personally my only wish
currently<BR>> is to make return a maximum of money at the time of the
sale<BR>> so that the syndic can deaden the debts to the maximum.
As<BR>> opposed to what Mr. PALERMO announced following his visit
in<BR>> my residence where is located the company, the buildings
are<BR>> not emptied, all stock and the machines remained in place
as<BR>> at the day of the pronunciation of liquidation. And will<BR>>
remain it under my personal guard without the syndic did not<BR>>
consider it useful to put at it sealed or to remove the<BR>> material.
What shows a whole confidence on behalf of the<BR>> syndic towards me. I
also expected to see some unloading<BR>> some ones, to see whether there
were nothing with grappiller<BR>> and indeed I saw some coming some, of
which Mr. PALERMO and<BR>> his son. I quote them bus me I do not hide
like them behind<BR>> pseudo on the forums to hold to with it of the
defamatory<BR>> and erroneous remarks. Such as: To say that my
wife<BR>> supposedly said to him that it refused to return her
cheque<BR>> to him. In connection with this given cheque on November
6<BR>> and to box that on December 1, I consider that there was
not<BR>> of order since it is the payment of the installment
which<BR>> confirms the latter. However not being able to be taken
into<BR>> account since the company did not exist any more at the
date<BR>> of November 25 this one became by this null and void
fact.<BR>> This cheque will be sent dice tomorrow by the post office
in<BR>> recommended A.R with a letter which will accompany it I
join<BR>> copy to you. Frankly, what I will have make of a cheque
of<BR>> 330 € to the order of PL PROD!!!! I am not a swindler,
far<BR>> from there!!! I also advise to him to consult the
statutes<BR>> of the company, it will note that my concubine "Simone"
does<BR>> not have any share nor bond in company PL PROD. It
affirms<BR>> to be badly received, those which know us well, know
our<BR>> direction of the reception. However well on not having
let<BR>> it return in the buildings, in order to appease his<BR>>
curiosity and I think after having read his remarks on this<BR>> forum, I
suspect it of having wanted to be useful itself in<BR>> stock since it
felt swindled whereas its cheque of<BR>> installment was never cashed and
that it will be it never. I<BR>> would like just to announce to the son
of Mr. Palermo that<BR>> if he wrote under the dictation of his father,
he should<BR>> learn how to judge by itself of the reality of the facts
and<BR>> that if he wrote his own initiative which he is still
quite<BR>> young person and inexperienced to hold such remarks
because<BR>> nobody knows what the future can hold to him instead
of<BR>> unnecessarily wasting its time in the forums that he
should<BR>> take of the French courses. I also prevent, all those
which<BR>> are to adapt the photographs of Clara MORGANE on my site
PL<BR>> PROD without authorization, that these photographs are
the<BR>> property of Patrick LEMONNIER personally, that they cost
me<BR>> 8000 € for the day of installation with authorization
of<BR>> exclusive diffusion on stores where they appeared and on
my<BR>> site. However with all these, I join the article of the<BR>>
penal code to you which relates to them: ATTACK A LIFE<BR>> PRIVEE BY
RECORDING AND DIFFUSION OF The IMAGE Of A PERSON<BR>> WITHOUT HER ASSENT
ARTICLE 226-1 AND 226-2 OF CODE PENAL. I<BR>> highly invite them to
withdraw these photographs of their<BR>> site which I already recorded as
proof if I do not have<BR>> excuses into public on this forum like that
was made to<BR>> dirty me. If not Clara MORGANE will be made a pleasure
of<BR>> requiring significant damages of them. Act quickly because
I<BR>> am not patient kind in this field. In addition my personal<BR>>
businesses look at me and I never neither was windy myself<BR>> about it
nor hidden and these last do not have absolutely<BR>> anything to see
with the company PL PROD which never did not<BR>> produce or diffused a
film in this field. It is not a<BR>> "SCOOP" to speak about it! That each
one does its housework<BR>> in front of its door before dealing with that
of the<BR>> neighbor. PL PROD was always more one passion that a<BR>>
profitability (I am not enrichiesur the account of the<BR>> company quite
to the contrary, I invested myself as much<BR>> physically than
financially) I think of having done what is<BR>> necessary to advance the
world of the model amongst other<BR>> things reduces the FÁ and the F3M
including the electric<BR>> innovation in FÁ. It should be known that to
make model<BR>> reduced for the high level competition is a very
delicate<BR>> trade, very difficult and fragile especially if one wants
to<BR>> make "HAUTE COUTURE". My great satisfaction currently is
of<BR>> knowing that a great number of my models are copied<BR>>
throughout the whole World and by many international<BR>> companies.
Whereas a few years ago I took that for an<BR>> affront, now I am proud.
With my opinion the progression<BR>> will be much slower if there are no
more my models to copy.<BR>> Will know that Patrick LEMONNIER did not say
his last word,<BR>> that one should not sell the skin of the bear before
having<BR>> it to kill and I am still quite alive and the head full
with<BR>> ideas for the future. I thank the regulator for this
forum<BR>> which knew after a fashion to make reign the order about
the<BR>> insults towards Clara MORGANE and I think that that
should<BR>> not have been easy. I thank, also, those which took
my<BR>> defense on this forum as those which remained quiet<BR>>
vis-a-vis these commérages thus showing the contempt that<BR>> they
bring vis-a-vis such remarks and I know that you are<BR>> numerous. I
think of having been honest and courteous and I<BR>> find damage to be
obliged to justify itself on a forum in<BR>> this way there and I hope
that in the future those which<BR>> will have some things to say to me or
to wonder will do it<BR>> directly on my personal e-mail
patricklemonnier@wanadoo.fr I<BR>> make all reserves on the action
pursuant which I will take<BR>> to these slanderings. I clearly hope to
have been. Patrick<BR>> LEMONNIER<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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<BR>> From: discussion-request@nsrca.org<BR>>
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Verne Koester<BR>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:13 PM<BR>> To: NSRCA<BR>> Subject:
PL Products<BR>> <BR>> I just heard a rumour that PL Products has gone
out of<BR>> business. Anybody heard anything?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> Thanks,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Verne Koester<BR>>
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