<DIV>Or Groucho Marx:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"I like my tuned pipe, but I ....."</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Never mind! :-)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bob R.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Larry Caldwell <4larryc@bscn.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Sounds like W.C. Fields tok up pattern! Oops, showing my age...<BR><BR>Larry Caldwell<BR>Brookland, Arkansas<BR><BR>Keith Hoard wrote:<BR><BR>> What a great name for a pattern plane. . . . Mike Hester, are you still <BR>> looking for a name for your new design??<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I can see it now: “Hey Keith, are you going to bring your CONCUBINE to <BR>> the contest this weekend??”. . . . (hehehehe)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Keith L. Hoard<BR>> <BR>> Cordova, TN<BR>> <BR>> khoard@midsouth.rr.com<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> From: discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <BR>> On Behalf Of Del Rykert<BR>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 8:56 AM<BR>>
To: discussion@nsrca.org<BR>> Subject: Re: PL Products<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Derek..<BR>> <BR>> Thanks for sharing the direct material CONCUBINE and all. Hope you <BR>> do get your Partner fuselage but I'm not taking any bets on it.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> del<BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> <BR>> From: Derek Koopowitz <mailto:derekkoopowitz@earthlink.net><BR>> <BR>> To: discussion@nsrca.org <mailto:discussion@nsrca.org><BR>> <BR>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 12:39 AM<BR>> <BR>> Subject: RE: PL Products<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Well, the biggest question in my mind... is will he honor replacing<BR>> the damaged Partner fuselage that arrived at my doorstep in June of<BR>> last year? After promising to replace it in August - I'm still<BR>> waiting for it.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> BTW, I've kept this out of this forum but he blamed ME for it<BR>> arriving damaged at my
doorstep. Hmmm...<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> From: discussion-request@nsrca.org<BR>> <mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org><BR>> [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Russell Honea<BR>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:35 PM<BR>> To: discussion@nsrca.org<BR>> Subject: Re: PL Products<BR>> <BR>> Guys,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Here is an e-mail reply that Patrick sent to me today in reply to a<BR>> question I posed to him about the closing of PL.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Hello Mr Russell Honea<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Sadden of this problem yes the company(society) pl prod and close<BR>> but we are going to honor all the commands(orders) gift(donation) pl<BR>> prod received a deposit by a buyer(rescuer) and I would be as<BR>> engineering manager to reassure your customers we are going soon
to<BR>> be able to take your order<BR>> Thank you to still take one can of patience sums us in plain<BR>> reorganization to worry you not we are going soon to be able to<BR>> answer has your demand you can count on us for 2005 with a great<BR>> novelty which is going to upset world you can inform about it your forum<BR>> Has very soon<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Patrick Lemonnier<BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> <BR>> From: Lance Van Nostrand <mailto:patterndude@comcast.net><BR>> <BR>> To: discussion@nsrca.org <mailto:discussion@nsrca.org><BR>> <BR>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:41 PM<BR>> <BR>> Subject: Re: PL Products<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Patrick is some interesting character. Thought I was re-reading<BR>> Les Miserables for a minute there.<BR>> <BR>> --Lance<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> <BR>> From: Derek Koopowitz
<mailto:derekkoopowitz@earthlink.net><BR>> <BR>> To: discussion@nsrca.org <mailto:discussion@nsrca.org><BR>> <BR>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:18 PM<BR>> <BR>> Subject: RE: PL Products<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Yes - this is true. I got this message off a French<BR>> discussion forum... I've run it through a translator so<BR>> don't laugh too hard:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> DEVELOPED FOR the RAGOTEURS IN ANY KIND "makes of them the<BR>> four or five slobbery over-devouts of the forum" because the<BR>> other members are unaware of them. With their place I will<BR>> have shame to have had such remarks to know that it is only<BR>> about anonymous letter since the latter not courage to<BR>> employ their own name and sign under pseudo. But I make a<BR>> point of announcing to them all the same that in the event<BR>> of deposit of complaint for slandering, the qualified<BR>> services would have the possibility of
identifying them<BR>> without difficulty. For a few weeks, I have followed time to<BR>> other the forums model makers which comment on the event and<BR>> I think that it is time for me to intervene and to give the<BR>> things to the point. First of all PL PROD was not put in<BR>> bankruptcy but it is of my own initiative that I filed for<BR>> bankruptcy, which in France is an act of management and not<BR>> a personal bankruptcy. Much among you will understand that<BR>> it is humanly difficult to announce this kind of decision by<BR>> Internet, namely that moreover it was impossible to to me to<BR>> do it day when liquidation was marked with the court since<BR>> the discontinuance of business was imminent whereas I hoped<BR>> to have an agreement of the judge to be able to finish my<BR>> deliveries in the course of customers whose installment had<BR>> been boxed. The reasons of my decision are not like it was<BR>> known as in the forum a
lack of order quite to the contrary.<BR>> But with my problems of health which last since more than<BR>> one year, I have no possibility to work like before and I<BR>> had to engage of the personnel to face my many orders.<BR>> Unfortunately, the same problems which were the cause of the<BR>> legal rectification in 2000, again arose; employees not<BR>> qualified to form, wages and exuberant social contributions<BR>> compared to work provided, various prud' man for certain<BR>> employees who believed any knowledge... and obviously in<BR>> France the employer is always wrong, all this generates<BR>> enormous court expenses. Like he was said by a member of the<BR>> forum, it is true that a great number of SME or SME are only<BR>> delocalized abroad and to be to relieve of the social<BR>> contributions which are much too heavy in France. Moreover<BR>> why not consider such a solution for the future!!!!! I knew<BR>> well that the vultures
would be with the mounting and I<BR>> announce to crafty one who think, I quote them: "to be made<BR>> gold testicles" and which in their dream reserve parts, or<BR>> "foreigners with their full pocket" or those still which<BR>> think that the company is not worth anything, and well for<BR>> some it has a very great value and for all those which would<BR>> like to come to make deals, they will may find it beneficial<BR>> to have very solid finances because they will have vis-a-vis<BR>> them somebody which has them to him and moreover one hard<BR>> motivation like a "rock". Personally my only wish currently<BR>> is to make return a maximum of money at the time of the sale<BR>> so that the syndic can deaden the debts to the maximum. As<BR>> opposed to what Mr. PALERMO announced following his visit in<BR>> my residence where is located the company, the buildings are<BR>> not emptied, all stock and the machines remained in place as<BR>> at
the day of the pronunciation of liquidation. And will<BR>> remain it under my personal guard without the syndic did not<BR>> consider it useful to put at it sealed or to remove the<BR>> material. What shows a whole confidence on behalf of the<BR>> syndic towards me. I also expected to see some unloading<BR>> some ones, to see whether there were nothing with grappiller<BR>> and indeed I saw some coming some, of which Mr. PALERMO and<BR>> his son. I quote them bus me I do not hide like them behind<BR>> pseudo on the forums to hold to with it of the defamatory<BR>> and erroneous remarks. Such as: To say that my wife<BR>> supposedly said to him that it refused to return her cheque<BR>> to him. In connection with this given cheque on November 6<BR>> and to box that on December 1, I consider that there was not<BR>> of order since it is the payment of the installment which<BR>> confirms the latter. However not being able to be taken into<BR>>
account since the company did not exist any more at the date<BR>> of November 25 this one became by this null and void fact.<BR>> This cheque will be sent dice tomorrow by the post office in<BR>> recommended A.R with a letter which will accompany it I join<BR>> copy to you. Frankly, what I will have make of a cheque of<BR>> 330 € to the order of PL PROD!!!! I am not a swindler, far<BR>> from there!!! I also advise to him to consult the statutes<BR>> of the company, it will note that my concubine "Simone" does<BR>> not have any share nor bond in company PL PROD. It affirms<BR>> to be badly received, those which know us well, know our<BR>> direction of the reception. However well on not having let<BR>> it return in the buildings, in order to appease his<BR>> curiosity and I think after having read his remarks on this<BR>> forum, I suspect it of having wanted to be useful itself in<BR>> stock since it felt swindled whereas its cheque
of<BR>> installment was never cashed and that it will be it never. I<BR>> would like just to announce to the son of Mr. Palermo that<BR>> if he wrote under the dictation of his father, he should<BR>> learn how to judge by itself of the reality of the facts and<BR>> that if he wrote his own initiative which he is still quite<BR>> young person and inexperienced to hold such remarks because<BR>> nobody knows what the future can hold to him instead of<BR>> unnecessarily wasting its time in the forums that he should<BR>> take of the French courses. I also prevent, all those which<BR>> are to adapt the photographs of Clara MORGANE on my site PL<BR>> PROD without authorization, that these photographs are the<BR>> property of Patrick LEMONNIER personally, that they cost me<BR>> 8000 € for the day of installation with authorization of<BR>> exclusive diffusion on stores where they appeared and on my<BR>> site. However with all these, I join the
article of the<BR>> penal code to you which relates to them: ATTACK A LIFE<BR>> PRIVEE BY RECORDING AND DIFFUSION OF The IMAGE Of A PERSON<BR>> WITHOUT HER ASSENT ARTICLE 226-1 AND 226-2 OF CODE PENAL. I<BR>> highly invite them to withdraw these photographs of their<BR>> site which I already recorded as proof if I do not have<BR>> excuses into public on this forum like that was made to<BR>> dirty me. If not Clara MORGANE will be made a pleasure of<BR>> requiring significant damages of them. Act quickly because I<BR>> am not patient kind in this field. In addition my personal<BR>> businesses look at me and I never neither was windy myself<BR>> about it nor hidden and these last do not have absolutely<BR>> anything to see with the company PL PROD which never did not<BR>> produce or diffused a film in this field. It is not a<BR>> "SCOOP" to speak about it! That each one does its housework<BR>> in front of its door before dealing with that of
the<BR>> neighbor. PL PROD was always more one passion that a<BR>> profitability (I am not enrichiesur the account of the<BR>> company quite to the contrary, I invested myself as much<BR>> physically than financially) I think of having done what is<BR>> necessary to advance the world of the model amongst other<BR>> things reduces the FÁ and the F3M including the electric<BR>> innovation in FÁ. It should be known that to make model<BR>> reduced for the high level competition is a very delicate<BR>> trade, very difficult and fragile especially if one wants to<BR>> make "HAUTE COUTURE". My great satisfaction currently is of<BR>> knowing that a great number of my models are copied<BR>> throughout the whole World and by many international<BR>> companies. Whereas a few years ago I took that for an<BR>> affront, now I am proud. With my opinion the progression<BR>> will be much slower if there are no more my models to copy.<BR>> Will know
that Patrick LEMONNIER did not say his last word,<BR>> that one should not sell the skin of the bear before having<BR>> it to kill and I am still quite alive and the head full with<BR>> ideas for the future. I thank the regulator for this forum<BR>> which knew after a fashion to make reign the order about the<BR>> insults towards Clara MORGANE and I think that that should<BR>> not have been easy. I thank, also, those which took my<BR>> defense on this forum as those which remained quiet<BR>> vis-a-vis these commérages thus showing the contempt that<BR>> they bring vis-a-vis such remarks and I know that you are<BR>> numerous. I think of having been honest and courteous and I<BR>> find damage to be obliged to justify itself on a forum in<BR>> this way there and I hope that in the future those which<BR>> will have some things to say to me or to wonder will do it<BR>> directly on my personal e-mail patricklemonnier@wanadoo.fr I<BR>> make all
reserves on the action pursuant which I will take<BR>> to these slanderings. I clearly hope to have been. Patrick<BR>> LEMONNIER<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> From: discussion-request@nsrca.org<BR>> [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Verne Koester<BR>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:13 PM<BR>> To: NSRCA<BR>> Subject: PL Products<BR>> <BR>> I just heard a rumour that PL Products has gone out of<BR>> business. Anybody heard anything?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Thanks,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Verne Koester<BR>> <BR><BR>=================================================<BR>To access the email archives for this list, go to<BR>http://lists.f3a.us/pipermail/nsrca-discussion/<BR>To be removed from this list, go to http://www.nsrca.org/discussionA.htm<BR>and follow the
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