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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bob:<BR><BR>I am not taking any sides here either,
as I don't fly Masters. However, If Masters is to be an ending class
paralleling FAI, then perhaps either a finals sequence, or a finals and unknown
are appropriate. This puts it on the same level as FAI which is what many
have told me they thought Masters should be. This will give the same level
of difficulty as FAI, but with all the associated rules and sequences totally
controlled by the USA. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Having been USA Team Manager 4 times, I totally
agree that the caller becomes an integral part of a successful pilot, especially
in the unknowns. Having a known finals sequence is less demanding on the
caller, but requires the Masters pilot to learn a second, much more difficult
sequence. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keep in mind that this would only effect the
NATS. I would push for a rule that makes flying the finals sequence at a
local contest illegal! This is the way it is in FAI as well. Finals
and unknowns are only flown at National and International competitions.
This keeps everyone who has no interest in flying at a Nationals from having to
learn anything other than the Masters pattern. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A poll would be interesting, but I would only allow
those that have flown at the last couple of NATS to be involved, pushing the
rule that any extra sequences would only be flown at the NATS finals.
</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyway, my $0.02...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL
32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=rcaerobob@cox.net href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">Bob Pastorello</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 06, 2005 5:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: AMA MASTER'S unknown?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I guess since I never take a position on
anything, I should probably do so on this -- so -- here
'tis.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. This is a genuine yes/no POLL question
of the MASTERS pilots only....and needs to be carefully administered, IF the
Board is interested in opening this one.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. If the POLL has at least 2/3 majority,
then the next question should be designed to find out how crazy we
(Masters) pilots are about having our scores judged by JUDGES WHO HAVE NEVER
SEEN THE SEQUENCE and </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3. How crazy we are about the
totally-impossible-to-fairly-administer influence of the "team". At this
level of competitions (you guys are talking about the NATS FINALS, for G---s
sake!!!) I would be hard pressed to say it will be "fair" to have the outcome
determined by who had the best caller (or the most effective team).
Not everyone can do that... and finally ....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>4. MASTERS is supposed to be the Top AMA
class....as such, philosophically, I think it should be the best - the VERY
best - of precision, smoothness, and gracefulness....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>AND implementing an Unknown turns all that back
into "IMPRESSION" judging....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm not in favor of it; won't be; won't try
to persuade others to be; and believe wholeheartedly that if a pilot is
strongly committed to flying Unknowns that he go play IMAC. Then fly
"Pattern" for precision, practiced, smooth and skillfully-executed
"routines".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR>NSRCA 199 AMA 46373<BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net">www.rcaerobats.net</A></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=divesplat@yahoo.com href="mailto:divesplat@yahoo.com">Ed Deaver</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 06, 2005 3:54
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: AMA MASTER'S
unknown?</DIV>
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<DIV>Flying an Unknown truely does make it a 2 person flight. I would
still welcome the opportunity as the challange and thrill(flying well or
goofing up and trying to collect yourself to fly the next manuever) is
really great. </DIV>
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<DIV>I don't know if it really identifies the callers ability, as much as
the teams ability. Another thought depends on how much time is allowed
to prepare also.</DIV>
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<DIV>ed<BR><BR><B><I>rcaerobob@cox.net</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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I'd answer whether I wanted one or not, I'd like to have an understanding
of what, specifically, the unknown in Masters would "reveal". If pattern
is about precision piloting that could be a different thing than an
ability to have a good caller....<BR><BR>Just my ignorant
opinion.<BR><BR>Bob P.<BR>> <BR>> From: "Grow Pattern"
<PATTERN4U@COMCAST.NET><BR>> Date: 2005/01/06 Thu AM 11:25:48
EST<BR>> To: <FLYINTEXAN@HOUSTON.RR.COM>, <BR>>
<DISCUSSION@NSRCA.ORG><BR>> Subject: AMA MASTER'S unknown?<BR>>
<BR>> How does this list feel about a Masters Nat's final that was
different to <BR>> the regular schedule. OR, even an unknown in the
final to make it more than <BR>> just three more of the same flown in
the heats.<BR>> <BR>> Regards,<BR>> <BR>>
Eric.</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>