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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dayton this year ??? Ed Hartley has already told me
what fun that contest is. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed ??</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=DaveL322@comcast.net href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net">David
Lockhart</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 07, 2005 7:42
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Callers (was Re: AMA
MASTER'S unknown?)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Putting up ones "best" flight is not always the
same as having the most fun during a flight!! <G>.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For your new neighbors in Knoxville, I can assure
them Ed was the premier caller in the Northeast for the once annual Belly Flop
contest!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Dave</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=edbon85@charter.net href="mailto:edbon85@charter.net">Ed Miller</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 07, 2005 5:38
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Callers (was Re: AMA
MASTER'S unknown?)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave !! I didn't make your preferred caller
list ??? I thought jokes, the local news and inappropriate remarks were
necessary ingredients for a good round for you !! Tonight's dinner menu, how
much beer we have left and belly flop contests seemed to focus your
concentration !!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Oh well, guess you'll have to come to Knoxville
to hone my calling skills : )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed M.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=DaveL322@comcast.net href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net">David
Lockhart</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 06, 2005
11:18 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Callers (was Re: AMA
MASTER'S unknown?)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The majority of my practice flights are
without a caller - and without a caller, I think I can fly my best - but,
I think my average flight level without a "preferred" caller (a very
limited group at any point in time) is slightly less than with a preferred
caller. This is for known patterns. For unknowns patterns, the
importance of the caller increases dramatically (at least an order of
magnitude).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For known patterns -</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When I have a good flight with a
"non-preferred" caller, I don't hear a single word they say - consciously
for sure, and I don't think subconsciously either - I remember very little
of what they said after the flight. If I actually need to hear
the maneuver from my caller (preferred or not), it is not a good flight,
and I've consciously chosen to listen because I had a "brain fart".
When I am having a good flight with preferred caller, I am 100%
concentrating on the plane for every instant from the time the engine
starts to the time the engine stops. I think nothing of the maneuver
schedule, and I divert none of my conscious thought from the plane -
I simply absorb information (maneuvers, centers, proximity to the ends of
the box, distance from flightline, etc) from my caller and on those
flights, at the end of the flight I can quote anything the caller
said, while not having specifically heard any of it during the flight -
and on those flights, everything the caller says (sees) is the same as I
am seeing - the confirmation justs adds to the confidence in the
flight.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For unknown patterns -</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The best flights will only happen with a
preferred caller - whether I have memorized the schedule or not
(memorizing it is preferred). The difference between the best
possible flight, an average flight, and a bad flight is at least an order
of magnitude different than with a known schedule. No matter how
small, the additional concentration I can put into the flying when I have
a preferred caller (and I don't have to think about what maneuver is next)
makes a difference when the scores are compressed at the top. Take a
look at the most successful unknown pilots - most have a preferred caller
(if no dedicated), often selected long before the event. Observe the
practice regiment prior to a flight. And then observe the precision
in the flight - it is only possible because of the focus the pilot has on
the plane, and the focus the caller has on calling the maneuvers with the
exact elements (push, pull, shift in, shift out, roll directions, etc) at
the exact times they best can be utilized by the pilot, and always before
the pilot starts to question what is next.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My comments are based on 17 years of
competitive pattern flying (5 in F3A), about 3 years of practicing
unknowns (written by myself and others, with and with out
preferred callers), and about 5 years of occasional IMAC flying
(including flying a borrowed airplane with a new caller through the
Unlimited sequence).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The ideal caller differs from pilot to pilot
- the ideal caller adapts to the personality of the pilot and knows when
to talk, when to keep quiet, and when to provide additional information
beyond the actual maneuvers. As a caller, at the practice field, I
give info to the pilot, and see when and if it is best absorbed (ie, I see
the appropriate response in the plane). I keep giving more info
until I think the pilot is saturated (I no longer see the plane responding
to my comments), and then I back off 10%. And in my 17 years in
pattern, I've found the amount of info and time in which it works best is
very different with different pilots. For myself, there are only a
couple callers I would put in the "preferred" category at any given time -
it is rarely more than 1 (Dad) or 2 (Dad and whoever I've flown with the
most lately) - but there are a number of guys that I know think the same
way I do, and they would be in the preferred category after only a couple
flights - some of these guys are good friends I only see annually at the
NATs - ain't it a great group to be a part of !!!!!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>On a related note - I've found that I can
maintain my full concentration for about 4 flights back to back. Or
maybe 8 flights through the course of a long day. As a caller, I
expend much less mental energy, but the amount of mental energy I expend
increases the more familar I am with the pilot. If I am very
familiar with a pilot, I expend almost as much mental energy during a
flight as if I were flying myself. On a nice summer evening, I
find that after 2-3 flights for me back to back with 2-3 flights I call,
my mental concentration starts to degrade just the same as if I flew 4
flights back to back by myself.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave</DIV>
<DIV></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=rcaerobob@cox.net href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">Bob
Pastorello</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 06, 2005
6:57 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: AMA MASTER'S
unknown?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Archie, your comments support my position,
particularly with reference to your statement <FONT
color=#000080>""Most pilots have the callers they generally use and that
person usually knows when the person they are calling for likes to hear
the next maneuver."</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Maybe it's that way in
all the contests YOU go to, but in the ones I attend, there's so many
folks trying to call and carry for each other that it RARELY works that
I have the same caller for two flights out of 6 at a LOCAL
contest.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> How much that influences
things is the very issue to be avoided.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm not talking about FAI, their
capabilities, or their team events....(you know, sponsors, callers,
helpers, all that), but the regular guys. No offense
intended to anyone, but that's an apples and oranges
comparison.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The pilot with the best caller will make
the manuevers look the best, overall, period, end of story. If
you've ever had someone calling for you when you really NEEDED a
maneuever, and they were a heartbeat or two behind, you blew the
manuever!!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> In NATS FINALS language,
that means the ONE thing that the caller burped on is the maneuver that
knocks you out.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>NO THANK YOU!!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR>NSRCA 199 AMA 46373<BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net">www.rcaerobats.net</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=rcpattern@comcast.net
href="mailto:rcpattern@comcast.net">Archie Stafford</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 06, 2005
5:47 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: AMA MASTER'S
unknown?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I think you
can fly unknowns and also make them very precise and smooth. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Look at the FAI finals.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Other than the roller I think
the sequence flowed very well and the top pilots made it look like
they had been flying it for a long time.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Even if you used past
sequences or rearranged the current sequence. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I do not
think this makes it a “team” event with the caller. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Most pilots have the callers
they generally use and that person usually knows when the person they
are calling for likes to hear the next maneuver. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Also if you use maneuvers that
have been previously used or maneuvers that are reasonably well known
then you shouldn’t have a judging problem. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If this is going to be used at
the NATS finals, then the judging is usually reasonably good anyway.
<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m sure there will be
varying opinions on that, but for the most part judging in the finals
is overall very good. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The better
pilots are going to make an unknown sequence look smooth and precise
no matter how many times they have flown it. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think unknowns definitely
help you determine who the best pilot is. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Bob
Pastorello<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Thursday, January 06, 2005 6:40 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: AMA MASTER'S
unknown?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I guess since I never take
a position on anything, I should probably do so on this -- so --
here 'tis.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1. This is a genuine
yes/no POLL question of the MASTERS pilots only....and needs to be
carefully administered, IF the Board is interested in opening this
one.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">2. If the POLL has
at least 2/3 majority, then the next question should be designed
to find out how crazy we (Masters) pilots are about having our scores
judged by JUDGES WHO HAVE NEVER SEEN THE SEQUENCE and
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">3. How crazy we are
about the totally-impossible-to-fairly-administer influence of the
"team". At this level of competitions (you guys are talking
about the NATS FINALS, for G---s sake!!!) I would be hard pressed to
say it will be "fair" to have the outcome determined by who had the
best caller (or the most effective team). Not everyone can
do that... and finally ....</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">4. MASTERS is
supposed to be the Top AMA class....as such, philosophically, I think
it should be the best - the VERY best - of precision, smoothness, and
gracefulness....</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">AND implementing an
Unknown turns all that back into "IMPRESSION"
judging....</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'm not in favor of
it; won't be; won't try to persuade others to be; and believe
wholeheartedly that if a pilot is strongly committed to flying
Unknowns that he go play IMAC. Then fly "Pattern" for precision,
practiced, smooth and skillfully-executed
"routines".</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR>NSRCA 199 AMA
46373<BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net">www.rcaerobats.net</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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Re: AMA MASTER'S unknown?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Flying an Unknown truely does make it a 2
person flight. I would still welcome the opportunity as the
challange and thrill(flying well or goofing up and trying to collect
yourself to fly the next manuever) is really great.
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I don't know if it really identifies the
callers ability, as much as the teams ability. Another thought
depends on how much time is allowed to prepare
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Before I'd answer whether I wanted one or
not, I'd like to have an understanding of what, specifically, the
unknown in Masters would "reveal". If pattern is about precision
piloting that could be a different thing than an ability to have a
good caller....<BR><BR>Just my ignorant opinion.<BR><BR>Bob
P.<BR>> <BR>> From: "Grow Pattern"
<BR><PATTERN4U@COMCAST.NET>> Date: 2005/01/06 Thu AM 11:25:48
EST<BR>> To: <FLYINTEXAN@HOUSTON.RR.COM>, <BR>>
<BR><DISCUSSION@NSRCA.ORG>> Subject: AMA MASTER'S
unknown?<BR>> <BR>> How does this list feel about a Masters
Nat's final that was different to <BR>> the regular schedule.
OR, even an unknown in the final to make it more than <BR>>
just three more of the same flown in the heats.<BR>> <BR>>
Regards,<BR>> <BR>>
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