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<DIV><FONT size=2>AMEN!!!!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Jerry</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=gene.maurice@comcast.net
href="mailto:gene.maurice@comcast.net">gene.maurice@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 07, 2005 11:48
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: AMA MASTER'S unknown?</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">To Whom It May
Concern:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I am a Masters flier and I
DON'T want to fly FAI or FAI like sequences. For me personally, Masters is a
destination. If I wanted to fly finals and unknowns, then I would fly FAI. I
fly Masters and will stay in Masters because I don't want to, nor can I for
that matter, effectively fly the FAI sequences. If people want more challenge
than Masters affords, I would respectfully suggest that they consider flying
FAI. Again, for me personally, the difficulty of the current and
prior Masters sequences are all that I can handle, and even then I'm a
perennial bottom feeder. Why in the world do we need two classes that are
for all intents and purposes equal? <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I believe there is a fair
contingent of fliers who are like me: good enough to fly their current
class without embarrassing themselves, not good enough to ever win, their
lives only allow a minimal amount of practice, but continue to do this because
IT’S SUPPOSED TO BE FUN!!!!. Why must we continually tinker with Masters.
Don’t get me wrong, I like the periodic change in the schedules. I don’t even
mind the ever increasing difficulty, even though it has made me even LESS
competitive. Again, I submit, if you are not sufficiently challenged by
Masters, FLY FAI!!! <o:p></o:p></P> </DIV>
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<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>Gene Maurice
<BR>gene.maurice@comcast.net <BR>Plano, TX</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bob:<BR><BR>I am not taking any sides here
either, as I don't fly Masters. However, If Masters is to be an ending
class paralleling FAI, then perhaps either a finals sequence, or a finals
and unknown are appropriate. This puts it on the same level as FAI
which is what many have told me they thought Masters should be. This
will give the same level of difficulty as FAI, but with all the associated
rules and sequences totally controlled by the USA. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Having been USA Team Manager 4 times, I totally
agree that the caller becomes an integral part of a successful pilot,
especially in the unknowns. Having a known finals sequence is less
demanding on the caller, but requires the Masters pilot to learn a second,
much more difficult sequence. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keep in mind that this would only effect the
NATS. I would push for a rule that makes flying the finals sequence at
a local contest illegal! This is the way it is in FAI as well.
Finals and unknowns are only flown at National and International
competitions. This keeps everyone who has no interest in flying at a
Nationals from having to learn anything other than the Masters
pattern. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A poll would be interesting, but I would only
allow those that have flown at the last couple of NATS to be involved,
pushing the rule that any extra sequences would only be flown at the NATS
finals. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyway, my $0.02...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL
32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com/">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=rcaerobob@cox.net href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">Bob
Pastorello</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 06, 2005 5:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: AMA MASTER'S
unknown?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I guess since I never take a position on
anything, I should probably do so on this -- so -- here
'tis.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. This is a genuine yes/no POLL
question of the MASTERS pilots only....and needs to be carefully
administered, IF the Board is interested in opening this one.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. If the POLL has at least 2/3
majority, then the next question should be designed to find out how
crazy we (Masters) pilots are about having our scores judged by JUDGES WHO
HAVE NEVER SEEN THE SEQUENCE and </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3. How crazy we are about the
totally-impossible-to-fairly-administer influence of the "team". At
this level of competitions (you guys are talking about the NATS FINALS,
for G---s sake!!!) I would be hard pressed to say it will be "fair" to
have the outcome determined by who had the best caller (or the most
effective team). Not everyone can do that... and finally
....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>4. MASTERS is supposed to be the Top
AMA class....as such, philosophically, I think it should be the best - the
VERY best - of precision, smoothness, and gracefulness....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>AND implementing an Unknown turns all that
back into "IMPRESSION" judging....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm not in favor of it; won't be; won't
try to persuade others to be; and believe wholeheartedly that if a pilot
is strongly committed to flying Unknowns that he go play IMAC. Then
fly "Pattern" for precision, practiced, smooth and skillfully-executed
"routines".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR>NSRCA 199 AMA 46373<BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net/">www.rcaerobats.net</A></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=divesplat@yahoo.com href="mailto:divesplat@yahoo.com">Ed
Deaver</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 06, 2005
3:54 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: AMA MASTER'S
unknown?</DIV>
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<DIV>Flying an Unknown truely does make it a 2 person flight. I
would still welcome the opportunity as the challange and thrill(flying
well or goofing up and trying to collect yourself to fly the next
manuever) is really great. </DIV>
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<DIV>I don't know if it really identifies the callers ability, as much
as the teams ability. Another thought depends on how much time is
allowed to prepare also.</DIV>
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<DIV>ed<BR><BR><B><I>rcaerobob@cox.net</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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I'd answer whether I wanted one or not, I'd like to have an
understanding of what, specifically, the unknown in Masters would
"reveal". If pattern is about precision piloting that could be a
different thing than an ability to have a good caller....<BR><BR>Just
my ignorant opinion.<BR><BR>Bob P.<BR>> <BR>> From: "Grow
Pattern" <PATTERN4U@COMCAST.NET><BR>> Date: 2005/01/06 Thu AM
11:25:48 EST<BR>> To: <FLYINTEXAN@HOUSTON.RR.COM>, <BR>>
<DISCUSSION@NSRCA.ORG><BR>> Subject: AMA MASTER'S unknown?<BR>>
<BR>> How does this list feel about a Masters Nat's final that was
different to <BR>> the regular schedule. OR, even an unknown in the
final to make it more than <BR>> just three more of the same flown
in the heats.<BR>> <BR>> Regards,<BR>> <BR>>
Eric.</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>