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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I am a Masters flier and I DON'T want to fly FAI or FAI like sequences. For me personally, Masters is a destination. If I wanted to fly finals and unknowns, then I would fly FAI. I fly Masters and will stay in Masters because I don't want to, nor can I for that matter, effectively fly the FAI sequences. If people want more challenge than Masters affords, I would respectfully suggest that they consider flying FAI. Again, for me personally, the difficulty of the current and prior Masters sequences are all that I can handle, and even then I'm a perennial bottom feeder. Why in the world do we need two classes that are for all intents and purposes equal? <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I believe there is a fair contingent of fliers who are like me: good enough to fly their current class without embarrassing themselves, not good enough to ever win, their lives only allow a minimal amount of practice, but continue to do this because IT’S SUPPOSED TO BE FUN!!!!. Why must we continually tinker with Masters. Don’t get me wrong, I like the periodic change in the schedules. I don’t even mind the ever increasing difficulty, even though it has made me even LESS competitive. Again, I submit, if you are not sufficiently challenged by Masters, FLY FAI!!! <o:p></o:p></P> </DIV>
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<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>Gene Maurice <BR>gene.maurice@comcast.net <BR>Plano, TX</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bob:<BR><BR>I am not taking any sides here either, as I don't fly Masters. However, If Masters is to be an ending class paralleling FAI, then perhaps either a finals sequence, or a finals and unknown are appropriate. This puts it on the same level as FAI which is what many have told me they thought Masters should be. This will give the same level of difficulty as FAI, but with all the associated rules and sequences totally controlled by the USA. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Having been USA Team Manager 4 times, I totally agree that the caller becomes an integral part of a successful pilot, especially in the unknowns. Having a known finals sequence is less demanding on the caller, but requires the Masters pilot to learn a second, much more difficult sequence. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keep in mind that this would only effect the NATS. I would push for a rule that makes flying the finals sequence at a local contest illegal! This is the way it is in FAI as well. Finals and unknowns are only flown at National and International competitions. This keeps everyone who has no interest in flying at a Nationals from having to learn anything other than the Masters pattern. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A poll would be interesting, but I would only allow those that have flown at the last couple of NATS to be involved, pushing the rule that any extra sequences would only be flown at the NATS finals. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyway, my $0.02...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL 32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com/">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 06, 2005 5:39 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: AMA MASTER'S unknown?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I guess since I never take a position on anything, I should probably do so on this -- so -- here 'tis.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. This is a genuine yes/no POLL question of the MASTERS pilots only....and needs to be carefully administered, IF the Board is interested in opening this one.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. If the POLL has at least 2/3 majority, then the next question should be designed to find out how crazy we (Masters) pilots are about having our scores judged by JUDGES WHO HAVE NEVER SEEN THE SEQUENCE and </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3. How crazy we are about the totally-impossible-to-fairly-administer influence of the "team". At this level of competitions (you guys are talking about the NATS FINALS, for G---s sake!!!) I would be hard pressed to say it will be "fair" to have the outcome determined by who had the best caller (or the most effective team). Not everyone can do that... and finally ....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>4. MASTERS is supposed to be the Top AMA class....as such, philosophically, I think it should be the best - the VERY best - of precision, smoothness, and gracefulness....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>AND implementing an Unknown turns all that back into "IMPRESSION" judging....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm not in favor of it; won't be; won't try to persuade others to be; and believe wholeheartedly that if a pilot is strongly committed to flying Unknowns that he go play IMAC. Then fly "Pattern" for precision, practiced, smooth and skillfully-executed "routines".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR>NSRCA 199 AMA 46373<BR><A href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A href="http://www.rcaerobats.net/">www.rcaerobats.net</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 06, 2005 3:54 PM</DIV>
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<DIV>Flying an Unknown truely does make it a 2 person flight. I would still welcome the opportunity as the challange and thrill(flying well or goofing up and trying to collect yourself to fly the next manuever) is really great. </DIV>
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<DIV>I don't know if it really identifies the callers ability, as much as the teams ability. Another thought depends on how much time is allowed to prepare also.</DIV>
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<DIV>ed<BR><BR><B><I>rcaerobob@cox.net</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Before I'd answer whether I wanted one or not, I'd like to have an understanding of what, specifically, the unknown in Masters would "reveal". If pattern is about precision piloting that could be a different thing than an ability to have a good caller....<BR><BR>Just my ignorant opinion.<BR><BR>Bob P.<BR>> <BR>> From: "Grow Pattern" <PATTERN4U@COMCAST.NET><BR>> Date: 2005/01/06 Thu AM 11:25:48 EST<BR>> To: <FLYINTEXAN@HOUSTON.RR.COM>, <BR>> <DISCUSSION@NSRCA.ORG><BR>> Subject: AMA MASTER'S unknown?<BR>> <BR>> How does this list feel about a Masters Nat's final that was different to <BR>> the regular schedule. OR, even an unknown in the final to make it more than <BR>> just three more of the same flown in the heats.<BR>> <BR>> Regards,<BR>> <BR>> Eric.</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>