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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>9.5 lbs by itself is easy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>9.5 lbs AND straight AND strong AND durable is
something entirely different!!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Dave</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=kerlock@comcast.net href="mailto:kerlock@comcast.net">Mike Hester</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 06, 2005 7:24
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: PL Products</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just saw this.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That's funny, a well known "expert" told me yours
was an isolated incident. Interesting, thanks for sharing. Of course this same
expert told me there was no way I could build a plane as big as a Partner at 9
1/2 lbs. Even offered to bet me, but wouldn't bite on my price =) (GOD how I
wish he would!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nobody is perfect, but a few people go to great
lengths to ignore and dismiss problems. I dunno, it sucks, but I think when
you have a problem and are told nothing is wrong or it's your fault, something
is obviously amiss. Then to hear you aren't alone, well that does change
things.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Mike</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tony@radiosouthrc.com
href="mailto:tony@radiosouthrc.com">tony@radiosouthrc.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:30
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: PL Products</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Derek:<BR><BR>Kind of reminds me of the
Excellence that I had that blew off a wing... The wing socket was not
installed properly (Quique had the SAME problem and had to go to France to
show them how to fix it). The offered me 10% off another kit....
What a deal! <BR><BR>After many e-mails and some intervention by
Quique on my behalf, they agreed to replace the kit, but I still had to pay
$350 in shipping cost... At least I did get something....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now you know why I designed my own last year
(Panacea) and it is kitted by PAC..... If anyone is looking for a
great flying KIT to build, contact PAC!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL
32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=derekkoopowitz@earthlink.net
href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@earthlink.net">Derek Koopowitz</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 05, 2005
11:39 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: PL Products</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=699173605-06012005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Well, the biggest question in my mind... is will he
honor replacing the damaged Partner fuselage that arrived at my doorstep
in June of last year? After promising to replace it in August - I'm
still waiting for it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=699173605-06012005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=699173605-06012005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>BTW, I've kept this out of this forum but he blamed
ME for it arriving damaged at my doorstep. Hmmm...
</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Russell
Honea<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:35 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: PL
Products<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000>Here is an e-mail reply that Patrick
sent to me today in reply to a question I posed to him about the closing
of PL. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=#800000></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#800000></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hello Mr Russell
Honea</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Sadden of this problem yes the
company(society) pl prod and close but we are going to honor all the
commands(orders) gift(donation) pl prod received a deposit by a
buyer(rescuer) and I would be as engineering manager to reassure your
customers we are going soon to be able to take your order <BR>Thank you to
still take one can of patience sums us in plain <STRONG><FONT
color=#ff0000>reorganization</FONT></STRONG> to worry you not we are going
soon to be able to answer has your demand you can count on us for 2005
with a great novelty which is going to upset world you can inform about it
your forum<BR>Has very soon </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Patrick
Lemonnier<BR></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=patterndude@comcast.net
href="mailto:patterndude@comcast.net">Lance Van Nostrand</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 05, 2005
10:41 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: PL Products</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Patrick is some interesting
character. Thought I was re-reading Les Miserables for a minute
there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=derekkoopowitz@earthlink.net
href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@earthlink.net">Derek Koopowitz</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 05, 2005
10:18 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: PL Products</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=232151704-06012005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Yes - this is true. I got this
message off a French discussion forum... I've run it through a
translator so don't laugh too hard:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=232151704-06012005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=232151704-06012005><FONT size=2>
<P>DEVELOPED FOR the RAGOTEURS IN ANY KIND "makes of them the four or
five slobbery over-devouts of the forum" because the other members are
unaware of them. With their place I will have shame to have had such
remarks to know that it is only about anonymous letter since the
latter not courage to employ their own name and sign under pseudo. But
I make a point of announcing to them all the same that in the event of
deposit of complaint for slandering, the qualified services would have
the possibility of identifying them without difficulty. For a few
weeks, I have followed time to other the forums model makers which
comment on the event and I think that it is time for me to intervene
and to give the things to the point. First of all PL PROD was not put
in bankruptcy but it is of my own initiative that I filed for
bankruptcy, which in France is an act of management and not a personal
bankruptcy. Much among you will understand that it is humanly
difficult to announce this kind of decision by Internet, namely that
moreover it was impossible to to me to do it day when liquidation was
marked with the court since the discontinuance of business was
imminent whereas I hoped to have an agreement of the judge to be able
to finish my deliveries in the course of customers whose installment
had been boxed. The reasons of my decision are not like it was known
as in the forum a lack of order quite to the contrary. But with my
problems of health which last since more than one year, I have no
possibility to work like before and I had to engage of the personnel
to face my many orders. Unfortunately, the same problems which were
the cause of the legal rectification in 2000, again arose; employees
not qualified to form, wages and exuberant social contributions
compared to work provided, various prud' man for certain employees who
believed any knowledge... and obviously in France the employer is
always wrong, all this generates enormous court expenses. Like he was
said by a member of the forum, it is true that a great number of SME
or SME are only delocalized abroad and to be to relieve of the social
contributions which are much too heavy in France. Moreover why not
consider such a solution for the future!!!!! I knew well that the
vultures would be with the mounting and I announce to crafty one who
think, I quote them: "to be made gold testicles" and which in their
dream reserve parts, or "foreigners with their full pocket" or those
still which think that the company is not worth anything, and well for
some it has a very great value and for all those which would like to
come to make deals, they will may find it beneficial to have very
solid finances because they will have vis-a-vis them somebody which
has them to him and moreover one hard motivation like a "rock".
Personally my only wish currently is to make return a maximum of money
at the time of the sale so that the syndic can deaden the debts to the
maximum. As opposed to what Mr. PALERMO announced following his visit
in my residence where is located the company, the buildings are not
emptied, all stock and the machines remained in place as at the day of
the pronunciation of liquidation. And will remain it under my personal
guard without the syndic did not consider it useful to put at it
sealed or to remove the material. What shows a whole confidence on
behalf of the syndic towards me. I also expected to see some unloading
some ones, to see whether there were nothing with grappiller and
indeed I saw some coming some, of which Mr. PALERMO and his son. I
quote them bus me I do not hide like them behind pseudo on the forums
to hold to with it of the defamatory and erroneous remarks. Such as:
To say that my wife supposedly said to him that it refused to return
her cheque to him. In connection with this given cheque on November 6
and to box that on December 1, I consider that there was not of order
since it is the payment of the installment which confirms the latter.
However not being able to be taken into account since the company did
not exist any more at the date of November 25 this one became by this
null and void fact. This cheque will be sent dice tomorrow by the post
office in recommended A.R with a letter which will accompany it I join
copy to you. Frankly, what I will have make of a cheque of 330 € to
the order of PL PROD!!!! I am not a swindler, far from there!!! I also
advise to him to consult the statutes of the company, it will note
that my concubine "Simone" does not have any share nor bond in company
PL PROD. It affirms to be badly received, those which know us well,
know our direction of the reception. However well on not having let it
return in the buildings, in order to appease his curiosity and I think
after having read his remarks on this forum, I suspect it of having
wanted to be useful itself in stock since it felt swindled whereas its
cheque of installment was never cashed and that it will be it never. I
would like just to announce to the son of Mr. Palermo that if he wrote
under the dictation of his father, he should learn how to judge by
itself of the reality of the facts and that if he wrote his own
initiative which he is still quite young person and inexperienced to
hold such remarks because nobody knows what the future can hold to him
instead of unnecessarily wasting its time in the forums that he should
take of the French courses. I also prevent, all those which are to
adapt the photographs of Clara MORGANE on my site PL PROD without
authorization, that these photographs are the property of Patrick
LEMONNIER personally, that they cost me 8000 € for the day of
installation with authorization of exclusive diffusion on stores where
they appeared and on my site. However with all these, I join the
article of the penal code to you which relates to them: ATTACK A LIFE
PRIVEE BY RECORDING AND DIFFUSION OF The IMAGE Of A PERSON WITHOUT HER
ASSENT ARTICLE 226-1 AND 226-2 OF CODE PENAL. I highly invite them to
withdraw these photographs of their site which I already recorded as
proof if I do not have excuses into public on this forum like that was
made to dirty me. If not Clara MORGANE will be made a pleasure of
requiring significant damages of them. Act quickly because I am not
patient kind in this field. In addition my personal businesses look at
me and I never neither was windy myself about it nor hidden and these
last do not have absolutely anything to see with the company PL PROD
which never did not produce or diffused a film in this field. It is
not a "SCOOP" to speak about it! That each one does its housework in
front of its door before dealing with that of the neighbor. PL PROD
was always more one passion that a profitability (I am not enrichiesur
the account of the company quite to the contrary, I invested myself as
much physically than financially) I think of having done what is
necessary to advance the world of the model amongst other things
reduces the FÁ and the F3M including the electric innovation in FÁ. It
should be known that to make model reduced for the high level
competition is a very delicate trade, very difficult and fragile
especially if one wants to make "HAUTE COUTURE". My great satisfaction
currently is of knowing that a great number of my models are copied
throughout the whole World and by many international companies.
Whereas a few years ago I took that for an affront, now I am proud.
With my opinion the progression will be much slower if there are no
more my models to copy. Will know that Patrick LEMONNIER did not say
his last word, that one should not sell the skin of the bear before
having it to kill and I am still quite alive and the head full with
ideas for the future. I thank the regulator for this forum which knew
after a fashion to make reign the order about the insults towards
Clara MORGANE and I think that that should not have been easy. I
thank, also, those which took my defense on this forum as those which
remained quiet vis-a-vis these commérages thus showing the contempt
that they bring vis-a-vis such remarks and I know that you are
numerous. I think of having been honest and courteous and I find
damage to be obliged to justify itself on a forum in this way there
and I hope that in the future those which will have some things to say
to me or to wonder will do it directly on my personal e-mail
patricklemonnier@wanadoo.fr I make all reserves on the action pursuant
which I will take to these slanderings. I clearly hope to have been.
Patrick LEMONNIER</P></FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Verne
Koester<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:13
PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA<BR><B>Subject:</B> PL
Products<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I just heard a rumour that PL Products has gone
out of business. Anybody heard anything?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Verne
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