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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sounds good. Like I said, could be other
reasons. Shipping costs was certainly not the most important comment I was
making but it seems to have gotten the biggest response. Go figure.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=rsbxon@ev1.net href="mailto:rsbxon@ev1.net">Ron Barr</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 08, 2005 9:27
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: PL Products</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lance, I can say with confidence that PL
made no money on the shipping - they billed you for the actual shipping costs
supported by invoices from the shipper.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Over the past 5 years, I imported 3 Smaradgs and
4 Partners straight from PL in France. I used a Houston shipping
agent for the last 6 airplanes who arranged airfreight. PL got
nothing from that process.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Prices did go up over the years from two
factors: increase in price as PL products kits got popular, and
deterioration in the dollar to euro exchange rate.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=patterndude@comcast.net href="mailto:patterndude@comcast.net">Lance
Van Nostrand</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 07, 2005 10:13
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: PL Products</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Russ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>OK, but here's how I drew that conclusion: I
mailed a plane to Europe using a PL prod box given to me from a
friend. My shipping charges were $100 less than he paid. Could
be other reasons, but it struck me as odd since the dollar keeps getting
weaker against the Euro.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=russ@ultimaterchobbies.com
href="mailto:russ@ultimaterchobbies.com">Russell Honea</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 07, 2005 10:51
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: PL Products</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000>Lance,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000>All good accessments but on #
4<FONT color=#000000 size=2> ( We don't charge to make money on
shipping, but I'm sure PL does ) </FONT>my experience in bringing in the
PL products to be sold through Pattern Proz was that the shipping cost if
they provided it was about the same as what I could find using all of
our normal shippers that we have access to.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000>Russell Honea</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000><A
href="http://www.patternproz.com">www.patternproz.com</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=patterndude@comcast.net
href="mailto:patterndude@comcast.net">Lance Van Nostrand</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 06, 2005
10:09 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: PL Products</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I liked Patrick's diatribe, but if you
actually read all of it it points out some facts about this business
that I, as a one of the hobby's suppliers of kits, can really
understand.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. We are garage shop small
businesses. People that treat us like deep pocketed corporations
don't understand the thread we hold on to keep above water.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. Kit making and glass layups is an
artform that requires highly skilled technicians. I like the part
where he says finding skilled labor is hard, but finding labor that
expects all the entitlements is easy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3. We should all be a little in awe of the
general quality level we are being provided considering the manual sweat
that goes into making a kit. 5 or 8 years ago we were happy to get
a fiberglass shape full of pinholes and no primer with a chin cowl that
required internal framing and customization to fit.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>4. It's expensive in France to have a
business. It's expensive in America too. AeroSlave shipping costs
though, in the US are usually less than $100 but they are about $250 to
Europe. We don't charge to make money on shipping, but I'm sure PL
does.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=pattern4u@comcast.net
href="mailto:pattern4u@comcast.net">Grow Pattern</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 06, 2005
10:27 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: PL Products</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>---- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A title=pattern4u@comcast.net
href="mailto:pattern4u@comcast.net">Grow Pattern</A> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; FONT: 10pt arial; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><B>To:</B>
<A title=wouter.vaneck@flyersoft.net
href="mailto:wouter.vaneck@flyersoft.net">wouter.vaneck@flyersoft.net</A>
</DIV>
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style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; FONT: 10pt arial; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:22 AM</DIV>
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Re: PL Products</DIV>
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face=Arial size=2>As an observer and spare time analyst of our hobby
and sport, I can only feel sad that another one bites the dust. It
does not matter whether it is USA based or not. Pattern is a worldwide
community and I, for one, mourn the loss of any supplier.</FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial size=2>I had good and bad experiences with this one but
never bad enough to wish them gone. This sucks. Every time we lose one
we lose a choice!</FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
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discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Verne
Koester<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:13 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> PL
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just heard a rumour that PL Products has gone out of business. Anybody
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