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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You got it Verne, I'll be there! LOL</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ken</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=verne@twmi.rr.com href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com">Verne Koester</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 10, 2005 4:45
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Class Structure</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Maybe on Tuesday.....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Verne</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mrandmrst@comcast.net href="mailto:mrandmrst@comcast.net">Ken
Thompson III</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 10, 2005 12:40
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Class Structure</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As a Sportsman pilot(kind of), I'm not sure the
turn around maneuvers are the main problem, at least for me. My
biggest problem has been drifting in too close. In my three years of
flying, I was taught to fly within the boundaries of our field, which is at
the most 100 meters to the far side. In flying the sequence I find
that my problem has always been the automatic reversion to my past
schooling, hence the narrowing of the box and then the rushing of the
maneuvers. The Sportsman sequence doesn't seem, at least to me, to be
very difficult, or too short, for most pilots.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My earlier posts, in agreement with a more
difficult and longer Sportsman sequence, were such that I am willing to try
new things, always. No changes will keep me from trying to become a
better Pattern pilot.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BTW, I just want to fly Verne's plane.
<VBG> Watcha' think Verne?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ken Thompson</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>NSRCA 3646</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>D4 Sportsman, again</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=khoard@midsouth.rr.com href="mailto:khoard@midsouth.rr.com">Keith
Hoard</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 10, 2005 11:16
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Class Structure</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ditto what
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">Del</st1:State></st1:place>
says. . . <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">BTW – Have I
mentioned that I think we should get rid of the turnarounds in Sportsman??
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Keith L.
Hoard<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cordova</SPAN></FONT></st1:City><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">, <st1:State
w:st="on">TN</st1:State></SPAN></FONT></st1:place><FONT face=Arial
color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
href="mailto:khoard@midsouth.rr.com">khoard@midsouth.rr.com</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Del Rykert<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, January 10, 2005 10:09
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on"><A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A></st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Class
Structure</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><STRONG><B><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'">Hi Verne.
</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><STRONG><B><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'"> I
am only 1 vote but you would have my support as many I have tried to get
to consider giving pattern a try were intimidated by the box and keeping a
group of maneuvers in it. Without a coach was to over whelming for them.
</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'">
<st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">del</st1:place></st1:State>
</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG><B><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2><SPAN
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NSRCA -
473</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG></SPAN></FONT></B><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message -----
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=verne@twmi.rr.com href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com">Verne
Koester</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Monday, January 10, 2005 7:40 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
Class Structure<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Terry,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks for the comments.
You're dating both of us here. That set of schedules I proposed was when
I was the D4 VP about ten years ago. The radical concept I had then
which would be viewed as even more radical now would be to have no
turnarounds in Sportsman. The idea was to have newbies come out and do a
judged set of maneuvers like loops, cubans, rolls and so on with box
exits on every pass. The whole concept was to get everyday sport fliers
that are doing this stuff anyway to come out and give it a try. The
schedules that followed were built on that first one and introduced
turnaround in phases. Anyway, I was shot down in flames. I think that
today, you wouldn't even see any smoke - it'd just go
poof...........</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Verne</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<A title=amad2terry@juno.com href="mailto:amad2terry@juno.com">Terry
Terrenoire</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cc:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Monday, January 10, 2005 5:54 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Re: Class Structure<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I value Vern's commentsbecause several years
ago he alone came up with a VERY good set of schedules for all AMA
classes that truely did build on one another. Sure wish we had adopted
the entire program back then. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I would love to see Vern on our rules
committee. maybe he could come up with another series for us to
consider, but at least leave the avalanche in the Advance
schedule.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Terry T.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:58:24 -0500 "Verne
Koester" <<A
href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com">verne@twmi.rr.com</A>>
writes:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Georgie,<BR>Here's a novel idea. Leave
Intermediate alone and take the snaps out of <BR>Advanced. A pilot
coming out of Intermediate into Advanced already has to <BR>learn
Slow Rolls, 4 Point Rolls, and a longer schedule with more crosswind
<BR>exposure maneuvers which is plenty.<BR><BR>The step from
Advanced to Masters is minimal at best. The step from
<BR>Intermediate to Advanced is monumental. The end result is a
bunch of pilots <BR>in Intermediate that are getting bored with
their schedule but still not <BR>ready for Advanced so they want to
add snaps to it. Only problem is that <BR>someone coming out of
Sportsman will likely be scared away if Intermediate <BR>is made any
tougher.<BR><BR>It's no surprise to me that the number of Masters
pilots at any given <BR>contest are far greater than the classes
that precede it. Most of us who are <BR>there came up through a
balanced system of steps. We're all out of whack <BR>right now.
Unfortunately, I seem to be one of only a handful of Masters and
<BR>higher pilots that still remembers how hard it was to learn slow
and 4 point <BR>rolls which gets introduced at the Advanced level.
Take the snaps and spins <BR>out of Advanced and introduce them at
the Masters level, put some box exits <BR>back where they need to
be, and you'll have a logical, balanced, and <BR>transitional
set of schedules that takes a pilot from Sportsman to however
<BR>high he or she wants to go.<BR><BR>Verne
Koester<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "George
Kennie" <</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN class=MsoHyperlink><U><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=blue><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">geobet@gis.net</SPAN></FONT></U></SPAN></SPAN></FONT>><BR>To:
<<FONT face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
class=MsoHyperlink><U><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">discussion@nsrca.org</SPAN></FONT></U></SPAN></SPAN></FONT>><BR>Sent:
Sunday, January 09, 2005 2:28 PM<BR>Subject: Re: adding interest and
complexity to Sportsman ... again and again <BR>and<BR><BR><BR>>
<<I'm not flying masters, I'm flying advanced, the reason
is<BR>> Masters is<BR>> more difficult than I think I can
reasonably fly at this time, so<BR>> I'll work my way up.
>><BR>><BR>> I respectfully disagree with your
assessment of schedule difficulty.<BR>> I get the feeling that
you haven't taken the time to sit down and<BR>> really study the
current Master's sequence. I commend your attitude<BR>> of
working your way up!!!IMHO, I find the current Master's much
less<BR>> threatening than the Advanced sequence.<BR>><BR>>
Somebody mentioned "going to contests without practicing",
and<BR>> indeed I can remember, back in the 60's going to a
contest myself<BR>> having never performed the required routine
and doing quite well at<BR>> the time.However those were
significantly different times and I<BR>> myself would not desire
to return to the mindset of that period.It<BR>> was called a
"Pattern Contest" and the attendance was probably a<BR>> couple
of hundred guys, but the mindset was more like a current day<BR>>
"Fun- Fly". Nobody really took it all that seriously.
Somewhere<BR>> along the line, the few individuals that did have
a more serious<BR>> approach organized and brought a more serious
aspect to the sport<BR>> realizing that the basis for guys going
out and flying a routine<BR>> that was in fact JUDGED meant that
the concept must<BR>> be"COMPETITION". I think that this is
probably the reason you still<BR>> find the most heavily attended
events to be "Fun-Fly's". When it<BR>> gets too serious there are
a lot of guys that start to feel<BR>> threatened regarding their
status within the group structure and<BR>> when the pressure
becomes, in their estimation, greater than feels<BR>> comfortable
to them, they gravitate to a different venue that<BR>> restores
the level of comfort they deem appropriate.<BR>> The same thing
seems to happen, in my judgement, with schedule<BR>>
complexity.Some of us realize that if the schedules become more
and<BR>> more complex, at some point the difficulty factor will
become<BR>> significant enough to threaten our currently hard won
achievement<BR>> status, and indeed this is true.The decision
that probably needs to<BR>> be reasoned through is,in light of
this truth, should the pursuit of<BR>> excellence be sacrificed
to satisfy the inadequacies of those of us<BR>> who are
clammoring to maintain their elevation?<BR>> I consider myself a
part of this equation and recognize my own<BR>> inadequacies,
however I also realize that this same pursuit of<BR>>
excellence will not be enhanced by any concession to tilt
the<BR>> playing field in my favor. Noone will be served by that
tack. Least<BR>> of all ME! My flying prowess ranks somewhere
between Sportsman and<BR>> Intermediate(my assessment), and
though I find a couple of the FAI<BR>> maneuvers really tough to
execute in a graceful manner, I still feel<BR>> that there is no
maneuver that I could not learn to do and given<BR>> another 50
years of practice I might even be in a position to<BR>> challenge
Jason.<BR>> It's about STRIVING guys. That's what COMPETITION is!
And it's<BR>> purpose is to determine the most skilled
individual, with the rest<BR>> of us rated in descending order
beneath the rating of the BEST! So,<BR>> as you can see, I'm not
in favor of wussing out to make things<BR>> easier for anybody
who finds their position at the pinnacle<BR>> precarious(and that
includes ME).<BR>> Now, all that being said, I do feel that we
may have a void at the<BR>> bottom and should probably go back
again and reconsider a pre-novice<BR>> class for the guy who has
only been involved in the sport for 2<BR>> weeks and has never
practiced flying a straight line.This shouldn't<BR>> take much
additional time as the number of guys showing up to<BR>>
participate in this class will indeed be very few (which begs
the<BR>> question, how far do we have to concede in order to grow
the<BR>> ranks?).<BR>> The Sportsman sequence I proposed a
couple of days ago DOES appear<BR>> to be too difficult for some
of the respondants(but not all) and<BR>> maybe the old Novice
schedule should be made available for anybody<BR>> showing up to
try (as a pre-novice event).I also think that the<BR>>
Intermediate should introduce it's participant to the 45
downline<BR>> snap or at least a center snap on a horizontal
baseline as<BR>> preparation for Advanced.<BR>> Only a bunch
of opinions, guys! Don't mean I'm right!<BR>>
G.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
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