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<DIV><FONT size=2>Seems so.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>DR</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=tkeithb@comcast.net href="mailto:tkeithb@comcast.net">Keith Black</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:29
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: AMA Regulation Changes for
2005</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also, I guess this means that you don't need to
fly to the end of the box for a true exit of the box. Take for example in
Intermediate where the last maneuver is two 1/2 rolls opposite. Guess you can
now finish the second 1/2 roll just the other side of center, fly 15 meters,
call exit then veer off for landing rather than fly to the box exit.
Correct?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keith</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=patterndude@comcast.net href="mailto:patterndude@comcast.net">Lance
Van Nostrand</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 10, 2005 10:28
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: AMA Regulation Changes for
2005</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Don,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Exiting
the box call must be done a minimum of 15 meters after the last maneuver is
complete and judging will cease at that point"</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Does this mean if the pilot delays a bit before
calling "exiting the box" that we continue to judge the line after the last
manuver, even if it is longer than 15 meters?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=donramsey@cox-internet.com
href="mailto:donramsey@cox-internet.com">Don Ramsey</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 10, 2005 7:13
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> AMA Regulation Changes for
2005</DIV>
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<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT size=2><FONT
face="Times New Roman">There seems to be the need for some kind of
guidance about what is in the new 2005 Competition Regulations.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I don’t have the exact wording as
it has not been published (seem there is conflict about who is holding
them up) but here’s what I have been told and am able to get from the
proposals. I hope some guidance is better than none at
all.</FONT></FONT></SPAN></P></SPAN></H1>
<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=2></FONT></SPAN> </H1>
<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Take off and Landing:<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></H1>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><FONT
face="Times New Roman"> <o:p></o:p></FONT></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><B>Landing Sequence</B>:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Execute a 180 degree turn to
downwind (or optional 360 degree turn if flight is completed on a downwind
maneuver).<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Fly a downwind leg
and then turn 180 degrees into the wind for a final approach to the runway
touching down in the landing zone.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>The landing is complete when the model has either rolled 10 meters
or comes to rest.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><B>Landing zone</B> is defined by lines
perpendicular across the runway and spaced 100 meters apart (50 meters or
about 165 feet either side of center).<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Width is the width of the
runway<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>but in no case shall
exceed 30 meters.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Downgrades:</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: -12pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 6pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">n<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">Model does not follow landing
sequence, zero (0)</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: -12pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 6pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">n<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">Any landing gear leg retracts
or collapses on landing, zero (0)</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: -12pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 6pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">n<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">Model ends up on its back, zero
(0)</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: -12pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 6pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">n<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">Model passes behind the judges’
line, zero (0)</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: -12pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 6pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">n<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">Model lands outside the landing
zone, zero (0)</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: -12pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 6pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">n<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">Only two scores zero (0) of 10
may be awarded.</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"> <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><B>Takeoff Sequence</B>:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Model takes off within the landing
zone then turns 90 degrees toward the line defined by the box end
poles.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When approximately
over this line the model turns either 90 degrees or 270 degrees for a
downwind trim pass.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When
approximately over the downwind marker the model executes a 180 degree
turn, reversal or other turnaround maneuver of pilot’s choice.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Downgrades:</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: -12pt; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 6pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">n<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">Takeoff sequence not followed,
zero (0)</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: -12pt; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 6pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">n<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">Model takes off outside the
landing zone, zero (0)</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: -12pt; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 6pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">n<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">Model passes behind the judges’
line, zero (0)</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: -12pt; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 6pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">n<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">Only two scores a 10 or 0 may
be awarded </FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"> <o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"><B><SPAN
style="mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Calling the Box:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>The box must be called a minimum of 15 meters before the execution
of the first maneuver and judging begins at that point.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Exiting the box call must be done
a minimum of 15 meters after the last maneuver is complete and judging
will cease at that point.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"> <o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><B>Retracts</B>:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Sportsman is no longer restricted
to fixed gear.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"> <o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><B>Straight and Level Flight Defined</B>:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The following has been added to
the AMA Judges’ Guide under B. Principles a. Precision paragraph 2 last
sentence after “Therefore, the absence of a well defined straight and
level exit should also result in downgrading.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“In all cases, straight and level
flight means flight parallel to the flight line, at a constant altitude
and <B>with wings level</B>.”</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"> <o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Spins:<o:p></o:p></FONT></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman">The following will be added to the AMA Judges Guide
under “Spins” on page 78.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"> <o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman">6. The pilot who can best combine
precision/geometry of the spin (shape of the maneuver/correct number of
degrees of rotation) plus wind correction to adjust the track should
receive the higher score.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"> <o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Also, on page 84 under “Spins, any number of
rotations, Upright or Inverted” delete the subparagraph beginning with
“Crabbing the model”</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"> <o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Editorial comment:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is my opinion, this is going to
take a clarification from the Judging Committee because of the
following:</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: -12pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 6pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">n<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">All lines in AMA are required
to be wind corrected or there is a downgrade.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: -12pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 6pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">n<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">Wings must be level approaching
the stall or there is a downgrade.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: -12pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 6pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">n<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">This new rule implies that the
spin is downgraded if the required number of rotations are not done.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: -12pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 6pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">n<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">It is impossible to fly a model
(or any aircraft) in a crosswind without wind correction and maintain a
track parallel with the flightline. So, to make the required number of
degrees of rotation the model must be on a heading parallel with the
flightline and therefore drifting (that physics)</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"> <o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman">None of this paragraph is in the regulations but
under "Logic behind proposal" is the statement "The best pilots can hide
slip and maintain track and attitude in all but the worst conditions." and
"For example, in a crosswind, pilot A does the best job of slipping to
maintain track while at the same time maintaining a heading/attitude which
closely parallels the runway." and "Good pilots are observed at every
contest maintaining track AND heading into spin entry. The
current rule does not allow a judge to give better marks to a pilot who
maintains track and heading from a pilot who
cannot."</FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>