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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Earl,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You have valid points as does Keith.
</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have to agree with Keith here on a
few points. Mainly being that I practice by myself with little or no
mentoring just because its not there. SO... I learn more in 3 days at a
contest then I do in month of practice on my own.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Meet me and Keith in WACO some weekend and we will
gladly take you up on the mentoring thing. :-) </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your friendly advanced participants.
. ;-)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wayne G</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=ehaury@houston.rr.com href="mailto:ehaury@houston.rr.com">Earl
Haury</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 12, 2005 8:15
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Judge Feedback</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here are some considerations regarding judges
providing feedback to competitors the we should address. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The key word is "competitors". Judges score
individuals performances in competitions that are held to ascertain the
relative skills of competitors to perform according to stated rules and
descriptions. Being a competition - one should assume that flyers present
their patterns to the unbiased judge sets and the let scores describe the
ranking. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT size=+0>The presumption is that the
competitors arrive prepared to compete. Those who have worked the hardest on
this preparation will (and should) generally excel. A pattern contest isn't
intended to be a training ground, but a review of achievement and peer
comparison. Judges who provide feedback have good intentions, but there
are questions that deserve attention. Isn't the job of the judge to provide
the correct score for each maneuver? Is it appropriate for the judge
to (mis)direct attention to make notations for post flight feedback?
Will the feedback be consistent to all competitors, or "buddy biased"? Is it
fair to my competition for judges to point out my errors so that I can correct
them in subsequent flights? If judges with largely different scores on a
specific maneuver offer feedback and disagree - then what? In the
latter, will this disagreement influence a ju</FONT>dge to change
standards mid-round? What if some wish to discuss feedback, or
argue with it, at the expense of delaying the next flight? What if
this agitates the judges and you're next up? </FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I realize that the gist of the feedback issue is
to benefit the newbie, but the above points apply here also. We seem to accept
that anyone, without practice or proper equipment or preparation (reading the
rules), should be able to fly successfully in some form of "beginner" class.
This doesn't happen - and we've fiddled with the rules of the beginner class
for years to little avail. Unfortunately, the judges feedback at a contest
isn't going to help the unprepared. What will help is mentoring - but not from
the judges chair! </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The best place to help the newbie is at the
practice field where everything can be addressed. Coach these folks, provide
feedback and assistance. Judge flights, take notes, and critique. Help trim
their airplane, be supportive with equipment maintenance, etc. Get them
prepared for those first contests, call for them, critique their flights,
evaluate their scores, help them in every way as a coach and friend, and
pattern will gain in numbers. Just don't do this from the judges chair -
judging is the only job then. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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