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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Pete – </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>EXCELLENT! Thanks for sharing! </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Where do you live? </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m in NJ; a flying buddy is in south
central PA – are we getting close at all??? </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Keep the faith! <br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rick Wallace </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Pete Cosky<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 12, 2005
8:31 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> discussion@nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Sportsman revisited /
Growing Pattern</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>If your interested in a
perspective from someone who wants to fly pattern but
doesn’t….I’ll give you one.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>The Sportsman sequence is
fine the way it is. I’m a pretty good sport pilot and struggled with
flying a straight line for quite sometime. That is the toughest part to learn
and it takes some doing, especially where I fly as it’s windy all time. I
forgot what a rudder was until I tried to fly a straight line.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I thought about flying
pattern back in early 80’s but got out of RC for about 15 years. Back
then local clubs were more active and you heard about meets within a reasonable
distance. Now the closest meet to me is four hours away and no one locally
seems too excited about doing anything. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>John is very correct that the
NSRCA needs a higher profile. My friend Buddy is the one responsible for me
being interested in pattern again AND the one who told me about the NSRCA.
I’ve read a couple K Factors and the ones I saw were nice if you wanted
to know who competed where and how they did. What does that offer someone who
wants to know about gear or construction or flying techniques? One did have a
nice how to on building a coupler for split elevators. I also have to ask why
there isn’t a higher profile in Model Aviation. Whey isn’t there an
aerobatics article every month with an ad for the NSRCA on the page? Have I
joined? No. Why? What is the incentive? If I can get to a meet and wind up
liking it will I join>? Undoubtedly. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>If you want to see pattern
grow then you have to find a way to get it closer to those who you want to
attract. I for one don’t mind taking a trip, but I am not going to travel
4 to 6 hours one way to see if I like something. Other than the time, I am also
on call 24/7. I’m sure there are a lot of others that would go if there
was something closer to them. I tried getting some guys together who were
interested in pattern from the PA, OH, WV area together at my local field and
only one showed out of six.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>My local club was down to 46
members a few years ago. We got a young guy in as president who got an article
in the paper and put up a web site and a nice sign right next to the road and
grew to 92 members in a two year span. All I heard from the new members was
“We didn’t know you guys were here” and “I’d have
given up if it weren’t for having someone show me how to fly”.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>As has been mentioned before
here and on RCU; there is a very real misconception that you NEED a 2M plane to
compete. I bought two myself and they fly a whole lot better than my KAOS did,
but they weren’t warranted for either the Sportsman or Intermediate
sequences. Because of Bob Pastorello’s thread on RCU I just bought an
Excelleron 90 and I’m sure it will be just as capable in the lower
classes as anything else. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>As for me right now I have a
Sequel, a Prophecy, an Excelleron and a Javelin II and am hoping I can make a
meet this year. If I can’t I’ll keep burning fuel and practicing
because I enjoy the challenge.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Just my $.02</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Pete Cosky (a confirmed
pattern junkie)</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>-----Original Message-----</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>From:
discussion-request@nsrca.org [<a href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</a>]</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>On Behalf Of John Pavlick</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Sent: Monday, January 10,
2005 8:28 PM</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>To: discussion@nsrca.org</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Subject: Sportsman revisited
/ Growing Pattern</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Guys,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> Here are some (more)
ideas regarding Sportsman and new pattern pilots. If you're sick of this then
don't read, but if not... The two obvious threats to membership in the NSRCA
are: 1. Losing current members. 2. NOT finding new ones.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I can add some insight into
problem #2 -</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Before we condemn the
current Sportsman pattern and invest time trying to build a new one, give this
some thought. If you want to increase interest in pattern, the first thing that
needs to be done is make the NSRCA a little bit more noticeable to the
aero-modeling community in general. I can't speak for all of the country, but
in my area (CT) almost no one has heard of pattern. Seriously. About 15 years
ago this wasn't the case, but right now, that's how it is. When I do meet a
pattern flyer they're usually older than me and remember the good old days but
can't find anyone to fly with or any contests to go to. It took me a while to
find out about you guys and I was LOOKING. The LHS owner thought pattern was
some type of racing. Everyone is either flying Park Flyers or 3D. Luckily I got
a hold of a K-Factor and a D1 contest schedule or I would still be flying my
Kaos at the baseball field. The Pattern Primers are a VERY GOOD THING!!! We
need more of them, or something like them. A lot of people are a little bit
afraid to go to a "real" contest. Remember, pattern still has a
certain aura surrounding it that intimidates beginners. When you leave your
first Pattern Primer, you know where you stand. You either go home and practice
or you give up. Maybe there needs to be a follow-up of some kind if someone
doesn't come back. Get enough information from Pattern Primer entrants so that
someone can call them if they don't show up at any more contests. Extra work
yes, but this might provide some answers. Right now we're guessing at a lot of
things. I honestly don't think the Sportsman schedule is at fault. Could it be
better? Maybe. Does it need to be? Maybe not. Since we don't need to submit any
rule changes until September (is this correct?) why don't we use the time to
gather some more information. Maybe put some more of those poles up on RCU. Ask
the general public what they think about the Sportsman schedule and entering a
pattern contest. They're the ones we're trying to attract. In the meantime,
anyone who is working with people that plan on attending their first contest
this season, try to assess their progress and what is giving them the most
trouble. Then we'll have some real life answers instead of guessing. I don't
think there's any ONE thing that we can do to improve things immediately. It is
a complicated problem, but as with anything complicated it can usually be
broken down into small elements. Fix as many as possible. It won't happen
overnight but it WILL happen if we work together. I don't want to see pattern
disappear from the AMA rule book and I don't think anyone else does either.
Sportsman is the seed that keeps pattern alive. OK so it's not the prettiest
thing to watch sometimes, but we all have to start somewhere.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>As far as problem #1 - I
think I've already invited enough criticism. I'll leave that to someone higher
up on the food chain...</span></font></p>
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