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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mark.....need your e-mail address. Mine is <A
href="mailto:pcosky@direcway.com">pcosky@direcway.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pete</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=atwoodm@paragon-inc.com href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">Atwood,
Mark</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 13, 2005
9:51</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Sportsman revisited /
Growing Pattern</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=277114814-13012005><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Pete...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=277114814-13012005><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=277114814-13012005><FONT face=Arial size=2>You need to head
slightly west. :) I'm in Cleveland...there are a number of good
contests that I'd recommmend for your first. There are several over the
summer in the Dayton/Cincinati area, and also one in Buffalo that wouldn't be
too far. You'd also find most of the Michigan contests to be
closer than you might think. They're all JUST over the border from
Toledo (less than 30 min)...and I'm guessing via Turnpike you're no more than
3 hours from Toledo.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=277114814-13012005><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=277114814-13012005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Give me a shout
off list...we'll get you hooked up!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=277114814-13012005><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Mark</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Pete
Cosky<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:21 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Sportsman revisited / Growing
Pattern<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I live North West of Pittsburgh and South East of
Youngstown, OH almost dead center between the two. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My friend Buddy was into pattern when he was down
south in the Marines. He told me that the KAOS would be more than fine for
Spotsman, but I didn't listen and bought his Prophecy off him. NOW I see that
it wasn't needed but I loved the way the plane flew. If I knew then what I
know now, I would have aved the money. My Javelin II with the YS 63FZ does
everything I ask of it and does it well without being a speed demon......slow
and steady.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Buddy was a bit let down when he moved home to
find that there were no competitions within a reasonable driving distance. We
keep trying to find time to go to a meet but as of yet haven't been able
to get the shceduling worked out. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am palnning to make at least one meet this
year, but you know what is said about the best laid plans of mice and
men.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Barring that, my local field has a 550' runway.
I'd love to get a some guys together there. The club website is <A
href="http://www.beavercountymac.com">www.beavercountymac.com</A> and there is
a link to a map.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hope to meet up with some of you guys one of
these days.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pete Cosky</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jpavlick@idseng.com href="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com">John
Pavlick</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 12, 2005
11:05</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Sportsman revisited /
Growing Pattern</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=270595003-13012005>Pete,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=270595003-13012005> Yeah, where do you live? I'm in New Milford
CT. I drive to ME, MA and NJ for contests - they don't have pattern contests
in CT (yet). This means packing up the truck, (I bought a new truck to carry
my pattern planes to contests - I'm not rich, just determined) waking up at
4AM and driving for 3-4 hours. I drove back and forth to two day contests.
Hey, if it was easy, it wouldn't be fun. You are absolutely correct about
the planes. As long as you have enough power to come out of a vertical roll
straight, and make it over the top - you're good to go in Intermediate.
Sportsman is a lot less demanding.You should have no problem with the
Excelleron. There is some pre-conceived notion that you need the "best"
of everything to fly pattern. Maybe in the higher classes this is
somewhat true, but the reality is you need to fly the
plane! Practice, practice, practice. You'll do fine - just go to a
contest!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=270595003-13012005>
<P><FONT size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A href="http://www.idseng.com/"
target=_blank>http://www.idseng.com</A><BR> </FONT>
</P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=270595003-13012005> </SPAN>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>rick
wallace<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:41 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Sportsman revisited / Growing
Pattern<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Pete
– </SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">EXCELLENT! Thanks
for sharing! </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Where do you
live? </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’m in NJ; a
flying buddy is in south central PA – are we getting close at all???
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Keep the faith!
<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Rick Wallace
</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Pete
Cosky<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday,
January 12, 2005 8:31 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Sportsman revisited /
Growing Pattern</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">If your
interested in a perspective from someone who wants to fly pattern but
doesn’t….I’ll give you one.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">The
Sportsman sequence is fine the way it is. I’m a pretty good sport pilot
and struggled with flying a straight line for quite sometime. That is the
toughest part to learn and it takes some doing, especially where I fly as
it’s windy all time. I forgot what a rudder was until I tried to fly a
straight line.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">I thought
about flying pattern back in early 80’s but got out of RC for about 15
years. Back then local clubs were more active and you heard about meets
within a reasonable distance. Now the closest meet to me is four hours
away and no one locally seems too excited about doing anything.
</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">John is
very correct that the NSRCA needs a higher profile. My friend Buddy is the
one responsible for me being interested in pattern again AND the one who
told me about the NSRCA. I’ve read a couple K Factors and the ones I saw
were nice if you wanted to know who competed where and how they did. What
does that offer someone who wants to know about gear or construction or
flying techniques? One did have a nice how to on building a coupler for
split elevators. I also have to ask why there isn’t a higher profile in
Model Aviation. Whey isn’t there an aerobatics article every month with an
ad for the NSRCA on the page? Have I joined? No. Why? What is the
incentive? If I can get to a meet and wind up liking it will I join>?
Undoubtedly. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">If you
want to see pattern grow then you have to find a way to get it closer to
those who you want to attract. I for one don’t mind taking a trip, but I
am not going to travel 4 to 6 hours one way to see if I like something.
Other than the time, I am also on call 24/7. I’m sure there are a lot of
others that would go if there was something closer to them. I tried
getting some guys together who were interested in pattern from the PA, OH,
WV area together at my local field and only one showed out of
six.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">My local
club was down to 46 members a few years ago. We got a young guy in as
president who got an article in the paper and put up a web site and a nice
sign right next to the road and grew to 92 members in a two year span. All
I heard from the new members was “We didn’t know you guys were here” and
“I’d have given up if it weren’t for having someone show me how to
fly”.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">As has
been mentioned before here and on RCU; there is a very real misconception
that you NEED a 2M plane to compete. I bought two myself and they fly a
whole lot better than my KAOS did, but they weren’t warranted for either
the Sportsman or Intermediate sequences. Because of Bob Pastorello’s
thread on RCU I just bought an Excelleron 90 and I’m sure it will be just
as capable in the lower classes as anything else. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">As for me
right now I have a Sequel, a Prophecy, an Excelleron and a Javelin II and
am hoping I can make a meet this year. If I can’t I’ll keep burning fuel
and practicing because I enjoy the challenge.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Just my
$.02</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Pete
Cosky (a confirmed pattern junkie)</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">From:
discussion-request@nsrca.org [<A
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>]</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">On Behalf
Of John Pavlick</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Sent:
Monday, January 10, 2005 8:28 PM</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">To:
discussion@nsrca.org</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Subject:
Sportsman revisited / Growing Pattern</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Guys,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"> Here are some
(more) ideas regarding Sportsman and new pattern pilots. If you're sick of
this then don't read, but if not... The two obvious threats to membership
in the NSRCA are: 1. Losing current members. 2. NOT finding new
ones.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">I can add
some insight into problem #2 -</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Before we
condemn the current Sportsman pattern and invest time trying to build a
new one, give this some thought. If you want to increase interest in
pattern, the first thing that needs to be done is make the NSRCA a little
bit more noticeable to the aero-modeling community in general. I can't
speak for all of the country, but in my area (CT) almost no one has heard
of pattern. Seriously. About 15 years ago this wasn't the case, but right
now, that's how it is. When I do meet a pattern flyer they're usually
older than me and remember the good old days but can't find anyone to fly
with or any contests to go to. It took me a while to find out about you
guys and I was LOOKING. The LHS owner thought pattern was some type of
racing. Everyone is either flying Park Flyers or 3D. Luckily I got a hold
of a K-Factor and a D1 contest schedule or I would still be flying my Kaos
at the baseball field. The Pattern Primers are a VERY GOOD THING!!! We
need more of them, or something like them. A lot of people are a little
bit afraid to go to a "real" contest. Remember, pattern still has a
certain aura surrounding it that intimidates beginners. When you leave
your first Pattern Primer, you know where you stand. You either go home
and practice or you give up. Maybe there needs to be a follow-up of some
kind if someone doesn't come back. Get enough information from Pattern
Primer entrants so that someone can call them if they don't show up at any
more contests. Extra work yes, but this might provide some answers. Right
now we're guessing at a lot of things. I honestly don't think the
Sportsman schedule is at fault. Could it be better? Maybe. Does it need to
be? Maybe not. Since we don't need to submit any rule changes until
September (is this correct?) why don't we use the time to gather some more
information. Maybe put some more of those poles up on RCU. Ask the general
public what they think about the Sportsman schedule and entering a pattern
contest. They're the ones we're trying to attract. In the meantime, anyone
who is working with people that plan on attending their first contest this
season, try to assess their progress and what is giving them the most
trouble. Then we'll have some real life answers instead of guessing. I
don't think there's any ONE thing that we can do to improve things
immediately. It is a complicated problem, but as with anything complicated
it can usually be broken down into small elements. Fix as many as
possible. It won't happen overnight but it WILL happen if we work
together. I don't want to see pattern disappear from the AMA rule book and
I don't think anyone else does either. Sportsman is the seed that keeps
pattern alive. OK so it's not the prettiest thing to watch sometimes, but
we all have to start somewhere.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">As far as
problem #1 - I think I've already invited enough criticism. I'll leave
that to someone higher up on the food chain...</SPAN></FONT></P>
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