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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wayne, I think Verne's points are about
maneuvers. And I'd agree with him on that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> What you're talking about, and
is also HUGELY important, are those "pattern fundamentals". There are sure
a lot of THOSE, and the wings level is but one....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> When I'm working with folks I
spend a lot more time at first on all the "elements" of patterns, THEN on to
manuevers/sequences.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> For example, besides wings
level, there is constant control of track and altitude with respect to
crosswinds or turbulence. Then "accuracy" of angles.... we need to really
know 45's, and 90's, no matter where they are in the box!!!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There's a lot more....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR>NSRCA 199 AMA 46373<BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net">www.rcaerobats.net</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 15, 2005 11:16
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [SPAM] Re: Schedule design -
Your homework assignment should you chose to accept it.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Vern,<BR><BR>I will respectfully disagree with you on the
hardest part of flying pattern.<BR><BR>Granted these are all important but I
feel the wings level in all altitudes<BR>IS one of the most important aspects
of flying patter correctly. It is so<BR>easy to want to see the top of
the wing for reference. I still have<BR>problems with it and I see
it in just about every maneuver that has<BR>problems.<BR><BR>Keeping the wings
level or perpendicular to the box or flight line. It is<BR>difficult to
tell how level your wings are as you start flying at a
higher<BR>altitudes. Same with down lines(my biggest problem) so that
when you pull<BR>or push out that you wings are level or you are not coming in
or going out.<BR><BR>This is addressed with the straight flight out and back
but is not discussed<BR>much in reference to change of altitude and vertical
lines. And so should be<BR>a major consideration on building the sportsman
pattern and up.<BR><BR>Wayne Galligan<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-- Original Message
-----<BR>From: "Verne Koester" <<A
href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com">verne@twmi.rr.com</A>><BR>To: <<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A>><BR>Sent:
Friday, January 14, 2005 10:57 PM<BR>Subject: Re: Schedule design - Your
homework assignment should you chose to<BR>accept it.<BR><BR><BR>>
Eric,<BR>> The main maneuvers in 401 & 402 were purposely left the
same. The main<BR>> lesson in 402 is turnaround which is more than plenty
for most. The pilot<BR>> gets to bring everything learned in Sportsman with
him. In fact, while<BR>> competing in 401, one could be practicing for 402
without changing much.<BR>> That's the beauty of the design. For me, and
many pilots I've discussed<BR>this<BR>> with agree, the hardest things
learned flying pattern with number one<BR>being<BR>> the hardest are as
follows:<BR>><BR>> 1. Flying turnaround<BR>><BR>> 2. Slow
Roll<BR>><BR>> 3. 4 Point Roll<BR>><BR>> 4. Any Roll that changes
direction such as Reverse Knife Edge<BR>><BR>> Of those I've talked to,
some had a harder time learning the 4 point and<BR>> some the slow roll so
2 & 3 are interchangeable. However, the transition<BR>to<BR>>
turnaround is undoubtedly the toughest of all which is why everything
else<BR>> going from Sportsman to Intermediate was left the
same.<BR>><BR>> Verne<BR>><BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>> From: "Grow Pattern" <<A
href="mailto:pattern4u@comcast.net">pattern4u@comcast.net</A>><BR>> To:
<<A href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A>><BR>>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 11:36 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: Schedule design -
Your homework assignment should you chose<BR>to<BR>> accept
it.<BR>><BR>><BR>> > Thank you Verne,<BR>> ><BR>> >
Ref. Eric, "Here yaw go. I doubt something this radical would ever be<BR>>
> accepted, but at<BR>> > least it will serve to underline some of
the concepts I was discussing<BR>and<BR>> > defending recently on the
List"<BR>> ><BR>> > Verne,<BR>>
> It's
actually not that radical and you get bonus points for<BR>> > doing
three of them :-)<BR>> ><BR>> > Now, if you feel so inclined the,
next part of the task would be to<BR>match<BR>> > the maneuvers. What we
did/do is take each maneuver and trace how trains<BR>> > the pilot for
the next level up. Then sometimes you tweak the maneuver.<BR>> ><BR>>
> For example, in your work below I would match the double stall turns
and<BR>> > do the following;<BR>> > 401 - Double Stall
Turn<BR>> > 402 - Double Stall Turn<BR>> > 403 - Double Stall Turn
w/Half Rolls<BR>> > 404 etc.<BR>> ><BR>> > What leaps out at
me is the 402 could be tweaked to have 1/4 rolls and<BR>> > then you
would have a pretty darn good ladder to climb with no rungs<BR>> >
missing.<BR>> ><BR>> > 401 - Double Stall Turn<BR>> > 402 -
Double Stall Turn w/Quarter Rolls<BR>> > 403 - Double Stall Turn w/Half
Rolls<BR>> ><BR>> > What do you think?<BR>> ><BR>> >
Regards,<BR>> ><BR>> > Eric.<BR>> ><BR>> > P.S. Even
though this is an exercise it does allow you to show how<BR>> >
interested you might be in getting involved in our future.<BR>>
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