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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Imron is a brand of paint ,much like calling
all tissue Kleenex,and is a polyurethane enamal based paint, so don't be fooled
by paint that says something other than Imron, if it's ployurethane
based. The same safety precautions apply.</FONT></DIV>
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<P>"Non-Clear coated "Two-"Part" (catalyzed) enamels (epoxy or polyurethane, or
acrylic urethane, and others):<BR>Though technically considered enamels, could
be considered in their own category due to their special characteristics. These
are paints like IMRON, and are polyurethane enamels. They set-up (cure) fast,
are very resistant to solvent damage. The down side. Very difficult to
touch-up/repair (especially if metallic and/or pearl), very expensive, very
toxic and, because they dry very fast, if you're not careful (and quick), you
can find yourself with a gun full of hardened paint, which can get expensive at
$250.00 to $500.00 a gun. "</P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Be safe.</FONT></P></DIV>
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<A title=humptybump@comcast.net
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 20, 2005 2:50
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Speaking of
painting...Respirator tips</DIV>
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<DIV>I agree with you on Imron. The auto guys around here don't use it
at all. Really nasty stuff i understand. I think it is was mostly used on
aircraft.</DIV>
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<DIV>Bob Richards had a good point on mask fitting. I learned from the
painters how to check for both positive and neg. seal on the face. Do this
everytime you put the mask on. If you have a beard like Bob's , you need a
space helmet.....hahahaha Bob!!!</DIV>
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<DIV>The touch-up guys at work at are not allowed to spray inside at
all....per OSHA. They use are a very quick drying paint that
is worse than PPG acrylic's (kind of like Imron danger, but not
as bad).It sets up within a few minutes of application. I don't even get close
to them when they are spraying. Have run from the area holding my breath more
than once!............John</DIV>
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Original message -------------- <BR>As far as Imron goes, I had read in an
airplane magazine that a fellow had been painting his Christen Eagle in an
open field with IMRON, and apparently felt that being in the open air was
precaution enough. He was pronounced DOA at the hospital, due to
catalyzed paint clogging his lungs. A couple of years later, I had my
El Camino painted with IMRON by a professional spray company near where I
lived. The spray booth was a completely enclosed tent looking
structure (one of those crisscrossed by ropes) and had a positive air
pressure setup. This structure was outside, in the open air.
When the man went in to spray, he was dressed as if he was going on a
moonwalk. Totally covered, pressure mask, lines, air supply,
etc. The booth had a window, and I walked over to see what was going
on inside.<BR>Another employee politely :suggested that I might prefer to
look at the goings-on from inside the office, (where nothing could be seen,
incidentally.)<BR>He stated: "we only insist on this procedure when IMRON is
being sprayed." That's when I decided that I really didn't want
anything to do with the stuff.<BR><BR>Bill Glaze<BR><BR><A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:humptybump@comcast.net">humptybump@comcast.net</A> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>I guess the pro painters that live with this stuff should all be
dead . I havn't seen one yet with a fresh air system , and
they work 8-9 hours a day in the paint booth. hmmmmmm.</DIV>
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<DIV>This is my understanding also....that there is no canister-type
mask that will protect you from isocyanates (i.e., acrylic urethane
paints such as PPG Concept), and the only truely safe way to use
isocyanate-based paints is with a remote air supply.</DIV>
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<DIV>It is not just inhalation of vapors that is problematic, it is
also absorption through eyes and skin. Isocyanate-based
paints are dangerous and some folks can have very bad
reactions to trace amounts of isocyanates. Err on the side of
caution.</DIV>
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<DIV>Andre'</DIV>
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<A title=discussion@nsrca.org
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Sunday, January 16, 2005 8:44 AM</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: Speaking of painting...Respirator tips</DIV>
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<DIV>Clay: What model 3M mask/filter is safe (as stated by 3M)
for use with isocyanates? My experience has been Dupont states
that a self contained or supplied fresh air system is the only safe
way to spray their isocyanate based paints. </DIV>
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<DIV>Mike Moritko</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 1/16/05 11:11:10 AM Central Standard Time, <A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:clay2@highstream.net">clay2@highstream.net</A>
writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I sell Dupont brand out of my parts
store. A word about the 3m Masks. They are widely and
almost exclusively used by all the professional painters in my
area. One thing you <STRONG>DO</STRONG> want to do when
storing the mask in the re-sealable package <FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><STRONG>along with cleaning them
thouroughly is to remove and dispose of the canister pre-filters.
</STRONG>If you do not, the canister will deteriorate just has if a
painter would use them everyday. New pre-filters are available
from anyone selling the masks.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Clay
Schmidt</FONT></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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