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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Another twist! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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style='mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;</span>Here is a post from RCU that chip addresses
Engine/Motor thrust.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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I run almost no right thrust in my planes and use the <span class=SpellE>thottle</span>
to <span class=SpellE>rudd</span> mix at 2% left <span class=SpellE>rudd</span>.
<span class=GramE>to</span> throttle at idle. <span class=SpellE>Thottle</span>
is the master <span class=SpellE>rudd</span> the slave. This makes the planes
fly so much better when inverted at idle, they do not have that funny yaw
through the corners. I have all but stopped using right thrust and do it all
with the mix. What happens is the fin moves to the opposite side when inverted
but the engine and prop don't know it, so the plane starts to yaw really bad
due to spiraling slip stream. <br>
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To set this up just go out and fly the plane straight away from yourself at
full throttle and then go to idle and watch to see which way it yaws start with
2% and start it from half throttle on down. <br>
<br>
Trim it a full throttle with you rudder trim, and when you go to an idle if the
plane yaws left you have to much mix, yaws right there's not enough. Have this
screen up at take off and a buddy that can adjust it for you. Once you have it
going nice and straight at idle and full go out and do a stall turn at the end
of the box, on your way down do a half roll and exit inverted, you will be
amazed how well it will go through that corner. <br>
<br>
Do that first before any other trimming. After that go with CG(45 degree <span
class=SpellE>upline</span> 1/2 roll and it should stay on that line with little
or no down elev.) then ail differential(1 Degree More up the Down)
verticals(wing incidence .5-1 degree positive, then put the stab where ever it
needs to go get the elevators to be neutral, you will at this time mix 1-2%
down elevator with throttle for your down lines), and knife edge last (start
with 5% up elevator with <span class=SpellE>rudd</span>.) <br>
<br>
Let me know how it goes and remember trim smarter not harder&lt;G&gt;<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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style='mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span>Chip Hyde<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>Copy &amp; Pasted from RCU
Thread on the Hydeaway.</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Scott Anderson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, January 23, 2005
10:03 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Amram Privat<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> NSRCA<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Calculations</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Amram,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>You might try Coloradogliders.com</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>There is some good programs under
the tools area..</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Scott Anderson</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>nsrca 529</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:amram@leshed.com" title="amram@leshed.com">Amram Privat</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org" title="discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Sunday,
January 23, 2005 8:22 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
Calculations<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hello all
members</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Does&nbsp;someone
has an experience and can advise me on a good software for calculating thrust
based on motor output (electric), </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>prop size
and pitch, speed weight etc etc..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks in
Advanced....<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Amram
Leshed<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a
href="http://www.f3a-israel.com"><font color=purple><span style='color:purple'>http://www.f3a-israel.com</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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