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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The question becomes how small a diameter
prop and how slow must you go for this situation to kick in.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>SPA doesn’t fly rockets like the old
days.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Noise is a bad thing.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>4 strokes with larger props slow us down,
too.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue;mso-no-proof:yes'>Steve Byrum </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> </span></font><st1:PersonName><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>discussion-request@nsrca.org</span></font></st1:PersonName><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> [mailto:</span></font><st1:PersonName><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>discussion-request@nsrca.org</span></font></st1:PersonName><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b></span></font><st1:PersonName><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>John
Pavlick</span></font></st1:PersonName><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 26, 2005
11:48 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><st1:PersonName><font
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Throt/ Rud</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Ed,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> Sure, but you can
only fly planes like that in SPA!!! (Or Sportsman). My Super Kaos Jr. is set
0-0-0. Just a little bit of right rudder and up elev. trim - still tracks down
lines straight. I don't mix anything with the radio - it's all done the old
fashioned way! </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>John Pavlick<br>
<a href="http://www.idseng.com/" target="_blank">http://www.idseng.com</a><br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Ed Hartley<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 26, 2005
10:35 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> discussion@nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Throt/ Rud<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:13.5pt'>Think about having the trim and thrust where you don't
have to do either?????<br>
<br>
Ed</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com" title="jpavlick@idseng.com">John Pavlick</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org" title="discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Wednesday,
January 26, 2005 10:13 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> RE: Throt/
Rud<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Ed,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> Don't think about
inverted / upright / right / left like that. It's all the same to the airplane.
Upright the slip stream hits the left side of the fin causing Left yaw. For
sake of argument: Right thrust will be used to counteract this. Inverted, the
SAME THING happens. Don't think right / left in reference to YOU, think left /
right in reference to the AIRPLANE. When inverted the slip stream hits the left
side (still) of the fin - unless the motor suddenly starts turning the opposite
way. Same thrust offset ("Right") required unless the slip stream
goes away in a push. Now if there's right thrust, you need left rudder to
offset the right thrust which is trying to make the airplane yaw right in the
absence of the slip stream air on the fin. If you still want to think
about it the "other" way, remember "left" rudder when
inverted will make the plane yaw to the "right" (in reference to YOU
standing there watching the plane). Now I'm getting confused.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> If you think about
what Chip described: Trim for straight flight at full throttle, mix left at
idle. Another way would be trim straight at idle, mix right at full throttle.
That's what I've been doing. Same difference. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>John Pavlick<br>
<a href="http://www.idseng.com/" target="_blank">http://www.idseng.com</a><br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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