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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yea, I agree. Too bad Dick is out of pattern for
good I think. Damn foamies!</FONT></DIV>
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<A href="mailto:billglaze@triad.rr.com" title=billglaze@triad.rr.com>Bill
Glaze</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org"
title=discussion@nsrca.org>discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 02, 2005 3:15
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Composite-ARF Impact
question</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I've gotten a lot of help from, and had some extremely
interesting talks with, Dick Hanson. A couple of years ago, a
professional builder of my acquaintance, (and a competitor of Dick's when Dick
was building kits,) said to a group of us: "The pattern flyer of today
will probably never know how much pattern owes Dick Hanson for what he has
done." And, this guy is not given to throwing around
compliments!<BR>Bill Glaze<BR><BR><BR>Bob Richards wrote:
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<DIV>I agree about the Hanson models. </DIV>
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<DIV>I flew a Runaround in Masters at the '93 Nats. An FAI flier who was
scribing for one round told me that I would never get the scores I
deserved flying an "outdated design". I won that round!</DIV>
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<DIV>Which reminds me! I can't remember his name, but I'd also like to
really thank that Appalachian Monk that sold me that small can of whoop-ass
before I left for the NATS. :-) </DIV>
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<DIV>That Runaround also had a 20 year old set of Violet retracts --
which became B&D as I recall. Bulletproof. As long as you remember to
plug in the retract servo. :-( </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bob R.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Ed Miller <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:edbon85@charter.net"><edbon85@charter.net></A></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have to second Dave Lockhart's mention of
Dick Hanson Models. The best flying planes I ever owned or flew came from
him. I currently own and fly 3 of his designs, a modified EMC per
Dave Lockhart, an Elan and a 26% Dalotel. I've had numerous others and
they were great flying planes. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm happy with my Litco Alpha 4.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>OS makes the best 2 strokes
IMHO.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>S&W fuels</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>B&D retracts ( my Elan and Dalotel have
retracts )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Futaba </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Central Hobbies</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Radio South</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>ES Composites</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>With the exception of 2, they are all US
based companies. Hmmm, wonder why</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed M.</FONT></DIV>
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<A href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net"
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<A href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org"
title=discussion@nsrca.org>discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
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Wednesday, February 02, 2005 1:26 PM</DIV>
<DIV
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Re: Composite-ARF Impact question</DIV>
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<DIV>I always loved the offerings from Hanson (Dick and his son Gy) and
probably have more flights and success with Hanson stuff than anything
else. The EMC (now available, I think, from Rich Lee) was way
ahead of its time, and with a few simple mods will still fly with the
current day stuff.</DIV>
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<DIV>In almost 20 years of pattern flying, 2004 was the first time my
planes were not of US origin. I am currently flying a pair of
Vivats - full composite (FG / balsa / FG) with substantial amounts of
prefab. I closely inspected 2 before shelling out the dough for
mine, and have closely inspected several others since. The entire
structure is extremely rigid and the flying weight is 9.75 lbs.
The flight performance and craftsmanship are the best I've seen.
It is obviously a very well refined design and has proven to be very
durable (500 flights and counting). It isn't cheap, but for the
level of quality, I wouldn't expect it to be cheap. Independant of
cost, I think the value of the plane is good.</DIV>
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<DIV>Regards,</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Dave Lockhart</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net">DaveL322@comcast.net</A></DIV>
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