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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I tend to agree.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sometimes I think we all spend far too much time
fussing over small stuff when what we really should be worried about is how much
fuel we burn, ya know?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Find something that works for you, then practice
with it and get it working right for YOU. There is no "right" or "wrong" way do
do a lot of the stuff we go nuts over. That's usually the stuff that gets me
cranked up.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wanna know what the best set up in the world is?
It's whatever YOU can get working and make it look GOOD. It doesn't matter if
it's cardboard, a gas engine, an electric motor, or whether or not your surfaces
have tips. If it works, it's gold. If it doesn't, it's junk. Someone else's gold
is my migraine. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And on that note, I have some sanding to do
=)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Mike</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=DaveL322@comcast.net href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net">David
Lockhart</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 31, 2005 10:32
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re:
No fixed tips?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This past year I put about 500 flights on a pair
of Vivats which have fixed tips. The 3 years prior, I put about 1600
flights on a pair of EMCs which had the control surfaces go all the way to the
tips. Same servos, same linkages, very similar surface areas and control
throws. Both used 2C engines and similar softmounts. I found the
average aileron servo needed to be replaced (pots and gears) after about 250
flights on both planes. I suspect the biggest difference between the
servo life I see and Troy sees is attributable to 2C vs 4C. FWIW - we
are both using the same aileron servos and laser throw meters.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The theory about tip vortices putting extra wear
on an aileron servo makes sense - but I tend to think it may be more/less of a
problem on different designs. I tend to think other factors may
contribute less, equally, or more depending on the particular plane -
softmount used, engine used, weight of control surface, control throw
geometry, orientation of the servo pot, etc.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave Lockhart</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>DaveL322@comcast.net</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=vicenterc@comcast.net
href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net">vicenterc@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> ; <A
title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=Rcmaster199@aol.com
href="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 30, 2005 3:58
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: No fixed
tips?</DIV>
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<DIV>I agree with Matt. I have done it in both ways and never had
problems.</DIV>
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<DIV>Vince Bortone</DIV>
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<DIV>I have done it both ways and notice virtually identical performance
as long as the aileron areas (as a percentage and planform) are unchanged.
What I have found stops the snap accurately and repeatably is a light
wing. Have not required servo pots in either type after 100's of flights.
Don't know why some are losing servos after a few flights, but do know
what works for me.</DIV>
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<DIV>Commercial jets flying at 600 mph and models flying at 100mph, don't
have much in common.</DIV>
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<DIV>MattK</DIV>
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